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[Mason89]

This is a f*cking tragic admission but I keep a copy of ‘Imagine’ handy in work. You can tell the bits Tommy wrote as they’re practically in crayon but it did change my political outlook on life. It reminds me of a more optimistic time.

[stewarty27]

[QUOTE=57vintage;40200138]Back in the day before Sheridan’s ego literally fûcked up the noble cause that was the SSP,


Yup Sheridans ego did **** up the SSP. But others in the SSP leadership played their part also, You can't side with the one of the most reactionary, savagely anti-union media organisations in the world as the likes of McCombe Leckie, and Kane did and keep thee respect of the SSP rank and file. Its always the same unfortunately with Left-wing groups unless their fighting like ferrets in a sack their not happy. Sheridan was a liar and a charlatan but he should have been removed from the party and left to fight his ego driven court case on his own. Instead the SSP leadership went on some kamakazi fight. Of course I have no insights into what went on these are just observations. but the ALL managed to fvck it up.

[Mason89]

They weren’t on their side, they just weren’t on Sheridans. Did McComes not go to jail for contempt of court?

[stewarty27]

They weren’t on their side, they just weren’t on Sheridans. Did McComes not go to jail for contempt of court?

As I said Mason I don't know a huge amount about this. Its just a shame a breath of fresh air on the Scottish political front was wiped out. You probably know a lot more than me on the rise and fall of the SSP. As a youngster I joined the International Marxist Group never really got involved but do remember the weekly meetings.. high brow ideological fights. Not to mention the dog-fights between us and the local SWP group. Just seems to me unless their involved in a scrap between each other yer average Left wing group are unfulfilled.

[57vintage]

What did you expect them to do? Lie in court after the dick had admitted to the party that the accusations against him were true, yet still pursued a defamation case against Murdoch’s lot? Why would people perjure themselves in court (as Sheridan was later proven to have done, the arrogant wânker) when they knew that he was lying? And then calling them scabs? The worst insult that a socialist can suffer. That finished the SSP, and socialist representation in Holyrood. Now we have “progressives”. Be still my beating heart.

[stewarty27]

What did you expect them to do? Lie in court after the dick had admitted to the party that the accusations against him were true, yet still pursued a defamation case against Murdoch’s lot? Why would people perjure themselves in court (as Sheridan was later proven to have done, the arrogant wânker) when they knew that he was lying? And then calling them scabs? The worst insult that a socialist can suffer. That finished the SSP, and socialist representation in Holyrood. Now we have “progressives”. Be still my beating heart.

I'd have thought damage limitation to the party. Don't get me wrong Sheridan was the catalyst for the demise of the SSP. I don't know but I suspect the tensions were there long before the NoW story broke. Passing on "covert videos to the NoW of Sheridan confessing are not the actions of a committed socialist rather a huge personal struggle going on to remove Sheridan at any cost. And that cost was paid big time,

[57vintage]

Rather than removing Sheridan, members were trying to stop the SSP becoming a single personality cult.

When he admitted to the SSP that the NoW had got it right, he was unable to leave it at that. That meant that all the allegations had to be examined in court and individuals involved were going to have their personal lives exposed to the public, and their reputations trashed, including that of one of the leading members of the Aberdeen Stop the War coalition. That was sickening.

You cannot condone lying in court, nor Sheridan’s betrayal of SSP members to whom he had confessed and who he eventually turned against by lying to try to save his own skin.

I see that he’s now in Alba with the other sèx pest creepy cûnts.

[TheDeeDon]

The SSP was the nearest I ever got to joining a political party. I went to a meeting with a view to joining, as I sort of knew one of the Aberdeen party members, might even have been the leader up here, Scott Sutherland (I'm sure that was his name)
Came away from the meeting very disillusioned. I mind I was asked by someone why I had never bought my council house, which I was very opposed against and still am.
Hadn't realised Sheridan had joined Alba, but I suppose it fits.

[57vintage]

The SSP was the nearest I ever got to joining a political party. I went to a meeting with a view to joining, as I sort of knew one of the Aberdeen party members, might even have been the leader up here, Scott Sutherland (I'm sure that was his name)
Came away from the meeting very disillusioned. I mind I was asked by someone why I had never bought my council house, which I was very opposed against and still am.
Hadn't realised Sheridan had joined Alba, but I suppose it fits.

Scott is still active on the left, and is a Dons fan too. I bump into him infrequently in town. I haven’t been a member of any political party since the only one I ever joined folded the weekend the Dons won the league in 1980. Nothing tempts me.

[TheDeeDon]

Scott is still active on the left, and is a Dons fan too. I bump into him infrequently in town. I haven’t been a member of any political party since the only one I ever joined folded the weekend the Dons won the league in 1980. Nothing tempts me.

I thought he was a hun! Memory playing tricks on me.
When I knew him he was going through Uni trying to become a social worker. We had loons at school together too.