Originally Posted by
donsdaft
I've been a "freedom for Scotland " fan since school.
I'm not a joiner inner though so I've never joined the SNP
My first real political disappointment was when we voted against the Scottish Parliament the first time.
Yes, slightly more people voted for but basically 33% voted for, 33% voted against and 33% couldn't be bothered voting at all.
I think the third group annoyed me more than the second.
I had very little expectation of winning the last independence vote, but against my better judgement I allowed myself to get carried away over the last couple of days.
Utter utter disappointment followed, this was our big chance, if we didn't do it then, then I don't believe we ever will.
Strangely enough, I didn't have a vote in either election.
1/ It has to be the SNP but not with Sturgeon, she's severely disliked in the North East, that's a lot of votes.
Moreover there is not a chance in hell of us voting for independence until the English rejoin the European single market.
The threats of closing the border to trade will hit home and Scots are too easily threatened.
Those that aren't threatened will be bribed as has always been the case.
It's not time, if she gets a referendum she will lose.
2/ If by inclusive, you mean pretending a man can turn into a woman then that's basing it on an obvious lie that people will vote against.
If by inclusive, you mean accepting that some men would prefer to be female then I think we're there already, it's the pushing of the obvious lie that threatens to lose all the gains made in inclusivity.
Whether Scotland would turn out to be an egalitarian society, then that's doubtful too.
It's nice to think it would be, it certainly has more chance of being than the English.
Unfortunately I cannot see it.
Greed, more at the bottom than the top would be our undoing.
Anyway, I would love to see Scotland as a full member of the EU, making our own way in the world, free of the English.
It'll not going to happen though, not for a fair while yet.
Once they crawl back into the Europe Single Market though.......bring it on.