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Thread: Couple of thoughts

  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by troodee1893 View Post
    You are right about the Partick game and the important word was greatly. As a thank you to fans the prices were slashed to a ridiculously low figure. The club brought in way less than they would have from normal prices and the consequent normal/lower crowd. Even filling the ground at the price on that day would have resulted in less income but the club knew that and accepted the loss as part of the thank you gesture. The often suggested reduce prices and bigger crowds will make up the difference rarely if ever works. Firstly it really hacks off season ticket buyers if it is used more than once or twice. Secondly you really have to slash prices greatly to get folk who had no or little intention of going to the game to attend taking it into loss making territory. Sometimes I reckon we could not fill Dens if tickets were given away free. Thirdly and sadly it just plain does not work. Halve the price/double the crowd, I'm afraid is just pie in the sky!
    Hospitality was sold out for that game.
    However in my opinion hospitality at Dens Park is too expensive for the average supporter especially when the VAT is added to listed price.
    Other clubs including local junior clubs in Dundee manage to charge a much lower price for hospitality packages so why can Dundee Football Club do likewise.
    Over ten years a person who worked in the hospitality business told me that 30% of the cost of a meal is food with the remainder of the cost being overheads including staff wages and profit.
    Therefore the club should reduce the cost of their hospitality packages to get ‘bums on seats’ as staff have to be paid whether there are a handful of people in hospitality or packed out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by troodee1893 View Post
    You are right about the Partick game and the important word was greatly. As a thank you to fans the prices were slashed to a ridiculously low figure. The club brought in way less than they would have from normal prices and the consequent normal/lower crowd. Even filling the ground at the price on that day would have resulted in less income but the club knew that and accepted the loss as part of the thank you gesture. The often suggested reduce prices and bigger crowds will make up the difference rarely if ever works. Firstly it really hacks off season ticket buyers if it is used more than once or twice. Secondly you really have to slash prices greatly to get folk who had no or little intention of going to the game to attend taking it into loss making territory. Sometimes I reckon we could not fill Dens if tickets were given away free. Thirdly and sadly it just plain does not work. Halve the price/double the crowd, I'm afraid is just pie in the sky!
    We managed to fill all three home stands for the Doon Derby on Monday 2nd May 2016. The potential Dundee FC support is out there. However the club needs to try to encourage Dundee FC supporters who turned up for the Doon Derby to attend home games throughout the season.
    This can only be done by the product on the pitch. People will always go to see a winning team.
    Tim Keyes should forget about Campy Nou and spend his money improving the Dundee FC team year on year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    We managed to fill all three home stands for the Doon Derby on Monday 2nd May 2016. The potential Dundee FC support is out there. However the club needs to try to encourage Dundee FC supporters who turned up for the Doon Derby to attend home games throughout the season.
    This can only be done by the product on the pitch. People will always go to see a winning team.
    Tim Keyes should forget about Campy Nou and spend his money improving the Dundee FC team year on year.
    I honestly believe regular 4,700 to 5,500 crowds in the championship would be a realistic target I'd go a wee bit more if we had a PATG.

    Winter is the hard bit to keep crowds up especially with fuel bills this year.

    Longer term I see no reason why we can't push closer to 6000 or so regulars......I hope it's at Dens but that's looking increasingly unlikely.

    What I would say about any move to campy is our crowds would fluctuate a helluva lot more especially midweek crowds.

    Any move across the road would see no btm to the crowds

    Getting season tic base as high as we can is the key.

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