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Thread: Victoria Derbyshire.

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    Victoria Derbyshire.

    This woman sums up everything that is wrong with the BBC and the country.

    Whoever she interviews, running this country down at all costs, she asks " what do you think the government should do", in true parent child helplessness mode.

    The British left regard the government as a teat. F or f sake use your head.

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    Interviewers are there to ask questions, Frank. Otherwise it would be somebody sitting quietly in a chair with the interviewer ranting at them. It’s quite Ok for an expert to be asked “what would you do” or “what should they do”. Unless, of course, you don’t want to hear the answers?

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    In every circumstance with the interviwer looking to make the government out to be bad?

    The conservatives have bent over backwards to help people, over covid, businesses, the financial crash, the coming recession and more.

    Its never enough, never, look at the NHS. We are nearly three trillion in debt.

    Its like a child asking a parent for sweets but the parent has no money. The child cant understand, but adults do, but still they want more.

    Taking responsibility for yourself, and looking after yourself comes before handouts. This country wants jam, all the time. What happens when we cant borrow any more money? what then? Isnt it better to take some pain now and not serious pain or death later?

    If you think it cant happen, think again, what is happening in Africa can happen to us. Starvation, thirst, pox. War. And still Labour will be saying " what should the government do?"

    You think im being a bstard, i am not, im being responsible, you have grand kids, do you know what the future is like for them? Not good is it, but you will drive this country into even deeper debt. I dont know where the moneys coming from now.

    The answers, what are they. ? Enlighten me. No, hold on, i can guess. Borrow more, hang tomorrow. What else is there. ? Its not switch the tv off, read a book, buy cheaper food, hand wash clothes, have one light on.

    No.

    Its I WANT BOOZE, FAGS, GAMBLING, DRUGS, MOBILE PHONES, TAKE AWAYS, GOOD CLOTHES, TRAINERS, MAKE UP, CARS, HOLIDAYS.

    Those days are over, or will be soon. There are no adults in the room, even in government. The Tories promise everything, when they know they cant. Labour are just mad.

    You see, time will prove me right, you think the gravy train goes on forever, intuitively, thats being able to look into the future, we are done. The NHS will crash, as will social services.

    On tv this morning, businesses cant fill jobs, yet there is a record number in the population, the very vast majority not fit to hold a job, and draining the country of cash. Not good is it? Temper aside, this has been coming a long while, when environmental disaster strikes, we are in for mass extinction.

    And we deserve it because we are too stupid, gravy now, hang everything else. One good question Derbyshire could ask an adult of whatever stipe would be, " how long has western society got?, as we know it now?

    The reply would be, " not long, its death has started".

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    There are various media that interview government ministers and senior MPs.

    The media's job in such interviews is to examine the government's record / policies and to ask probing questions about upcoming government legislation. Whichever party is in power it resents such legitimate questions and considers that these organisations are against it. These organisations cannot ask the opposition similar questions because it has not done anything to be asked about.

    The true democrat of whichever political persuasion should welcome the intimate examination of the government's record / policies. It is unreasonable for anyone to criticise the people who ask these questions, it is legitimate for folk to heavily criticise those who fail to give adequate answers. Since this government has failed in a multitude of ways and has been corrupt there are numerous questions that need to be answered. No doubt to a rabid right winger this is extremely unfair but to anyone who truly understands the concept of democracy and fair play the government's record / policies are legitimate subjects for intimate examination.

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    Cant argue with that, but you are ignoring the above points. The government cannot make up the shortfall in every instance, im sure you think it can.

    We are at the lowest point economically.

    Normality is out the window, and when the money gravy train dries up, what then? Because it will. Would you like to comment on that?

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    I believe that if the negligence and corruption had been less the government would now be better placed to respond to the crisis.

    A more genial and better quality Conservative government would not have got in this mess to this degree. I discern that you will not defend it because you are a Conservative and this government can be regarded as not a Conservative government. I agree with that. It is a 'Boris Johnson and his sheep' government, but thus far the sheep remain.

    Gove is often derided but he remains the nearest thing to a genuine Cabinet Minister. He has often done what is immediately unpopular but is the correct policy. However, he is as good as gone already by being a Sunak supporter. As for Priti Patel and Nadine Dorries, the scorn is perpetual and quite rightly so.

    The entire Cabinet needs to be flushed away and thus recover some measure of respect for the Conservatives. Until it happens the party will struggle. Truss seems to be planning some degree of a flush out but she is bringing back veterans, probably not as a long term measure, to steady things whilst new talent emerges. This is the prudent action to take.

    It would be amusing if, soon after 5th September, 54 Sunak supporters write Letters Of No Confidence to Sir Graham Brady, Chairman of The 1922 Committee.

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    Crikey. Johnson was a disaster, all front and no substance, a snake oil salesman. I liked Gove, there was nothing false about him. Our infantile electorate, and i include the tory party members will, vote for the easy way, but as Sunak said, its the harder way eventually.

    Adultness is hard won, debt is the bedrock of poverty.

    So why do the Tories, and Labour, rack it up constantly, over generations.

    NO.

    Its the most important word in the english language, and guaranteed to spark outrage. Sunak has the guts to say it, and will lose, as we all will.

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    National debt isn’t a disaster Frank; all countries have it and it will have increased greatly because of covid. Our country sells gilts, bonds etc mainly to pension funds and the like and as long as taxes keep coming in it can be repaid plus the interest. Unfortunately the Tories claim to be the party that cuts taxes which is a poor place to start. I reckon that’s why Sunak is rightly pointing at Truss’s promises as unworkable. Giving money away, cutting taxes AND servicing debt is unworkable. I don’t trust that woman.

    From Wikipedia:

    “As of Q1 (the first quarter of) 2018, UK debt amounted to £1.78 trillion, or 86.58% of total GDP, at which time the annual cost of servicing (paying the interest) the public debt amounted to around £48 billion (which is roughly 4% of GDP or 8% of UK government tax income).

    Approximately a third of the UK National Debt is owned by the British government due to the Bank of England's quantitative easing programme, so approximately a third of the cost of servicing the debt is paid by the government to itself. In 2018, this reduced the annual servicing cost to approximately £30 billion (approx 2% of GDP, approx 5% of UK government tax income).”

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    " National debt isnt a disaster". We shall see, looks like suicide to me. Use your own finances as a guide, if you are in debt, how much of your income goes on re- payments. ? Think what else you could do with that money.

    The above is nonsense.

    This explains Labours criminal borrowing over my life time, Labour gets in, f up, the Tories get in, stabilise everything, then gets voted out.

    Because the country thinks it can afford socialism. The country wants a permanent party, a financial one, and hang consequences, live for today.

    To be honest, this country and western europe is going the way of ancient greece, wealth leads to degeneration, and collapse. Moral collapse also, look at the sickness in society. Its all happened before.

    You thought i wouldnt notice the date. First quarter of 2018. Whatever happens it will be interesting. Just think how rich this country would be without debt, not hosing money away on craziness.

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    Total rubbish Frank, especially this bit:

    “This explains Labours criminal borrowing over my life time, Labour gets in, f up, the Tories get in, stabilise everything, then gets voted out.”

    In May 2010 when Labour were voted out the national debt was about 1030 billion or about 75% of GDP. By March 2019 (when covid started changing things) under the Tories it had risen to 1800 billion. That’s a rise to fund Tory policies of about 75% in just under 9 years. That’s hardly stability Frank, that’s outright profligacy. Even worse, at that point the debt had risen to 82% of GDP. With the covid effect added debt had increased at December 2021 to 2383 billion and 103% of GDP. A total recipe for disaster and all down to the Tories.

    So Frank, at the next election if you want a Government that is less likely to bankrupt the country, vote Labour.

    I said that national debt isn’t a disaster and I stand by it. It’s acceptable as long as it’s affordable. Look at the interest payments (likely to go up now that the Tories have allowed inflation to run rampant) as like a person paying rent. It’s dead money, going to someone else, but a necessary evil. However, rent can be half of a person’s disposable income whilst servicing a national debt (at least under Labour) is far more affordable. As I said, a necessary evil.

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