What has happened to Covid

[The AuldYin]

Benefits are self explanatory,helping those to live.
Furlough did the same.
UK government stopped many from earning so had to provide support.
If you call it "free money" it is similar to other benefits.
That what economys do.
Help those who need it and rightly so.
At no point did I say have everyone on benefits.
The benefit system is there to help, unfortunately many milk it.

Furlough was absolutely nothing like benefits, for a start most people who received Furlough had at least paid into the system, ****s on benefits got a rise (**** knows why) many of whom have never paid a bean in.

[islaydarkblue]

Furlough was absolutely nothing like benefits, for a start most people who received Furlough had at least paid into the system, ****s on benefits got a rise (**** knows why) many of whom have never paid a bean in.

Yesterday I was speaking to an elderly gentleman who like me can remember high inflation in the mid 1970’s thanks to the Arab countries greatly increasing the price of a barrel of oil and he said that back then there were no government handouts to deal with rising electricity and gas bills.
People got on with things and used their own initiative.
We also agreed that unions demanding large pay increases will cause high inflation.
This gentleman had a good suggestion.
When the inflation rate starts to fall these workers who have received a large percentage pay increase should receive a cut in their wages.

[grantzer]

Yesterday I was speaking to an elderly gentleman who like me can remember high inflation in the mid 1970’s thanks to the Arab countries greatly increasing the price of a barrel of oil and he said that back then there were no government handouts to deal with rising electricity and gas bills.
People got on with things and used their own initiative.
We also agreed that unions demanding large pay increases will cause high inflation.
This gentleman had a good suggestion.
When the inflation rate starts to fall these workers who have received a large percentage pay increase should receive a cut in their wages.

Gas and electric were not privately owned then tho were they.

Also inflation is not being driven by wage demands. Generally price increases cause inflation. The price increases because costs rise. The rises in gas,electrical and oil prices are not rising due to labour costs,they seem to be rising due to the greed of private enterprise.

Initially we were told it was because of Ukraine, and it was the price we had to pay to help Ukraine win its war,to stop the nasty Russians.

Now as these commodities prices are dropping,fuel and energy prices keep rising. Wages need to rise to keep track of that.

Benefits need to rise to keep track as well.

It amazes me that some people think it's fine for the government to hand out money to subsidise the wages of companies making massive profits,but seem to be against making payments to the most vulnerable in society.

Or making those companies pay wages that mean people can afford to not choose between heating and eating

[eric_sinclair]

Furlough was absolutely nothing like benefits, for a start most people who received Furlough had at least paid into the system, ****s on benefits got a rise (**** knows why) many of whom have never paid a bean in.

Absolute nonsense,people on low wages receive benefits as do those possibly just lost their jobs maybe because of covid.Fowk with a disabilty also recieve benefits.
Think you are assuming everyone on benefits have never worked!!
yer wrong

[The AuldYin]

Absolute nonsense,people on low wages receive benefits as do those possibly just lost their jobs maybe because of covid.Fowk with a disabilty also recieve benefits.
Think you are assuming everyone on benefits have never worked!!
yer wrong

It's completely different from benefits, Furlough was paid to people who had an income besides benefits pre Covid, it wasn't a birth right like benefits are. I think you are presuming everyone on benefits has fallen on hard times, for many it's a career choice.

[eric_sinclair]

It's completely different from benefits, Furlough was paid to people who had an income besides benefits pre Covid, it wasn't a birth right like benefits are. I think you are presuming everyone on benefits has fallen on hard times, for many it's a career choice.

I agree and said so in an earlier post.
You commented saying those on benefits have not contributed,that is not true.

[The AuldYin]

I agree and said so in an earlier post.
You commented saying those on benefits have not contributed,that is not true.

I said no such thing, read it again.

[jdfc]

What gets me just now is places advertising job vacancies yet some out there are happy to plod away on pt hours that are topped up with tax credits, folk that turn down full time hours simply because it doesn’t pay much more than what their benefits pays should be removed from receiving benefits, leave it for folk who genuinely need them

[The AuldYin]

What gets me just now is places advertising job vacancies yet some out there are happy to plod away on pt hours that are topped up with tax credits, folk that turn down full time hours simply because it doesn’t pay much more than what their benefits pays should be removed from receiving benefits, leave it for folk who genuinely need them

I thought all that had stopped when they brought out that Universal credits?

[jdfc]

I thought all that had stopped when they brought out that Universal credits?

No, I don’t know how it works, but work a max of 16 hours and government gives you free money