our players shelf life

[TANYA_]

i remember reading a few years back that when Mauricio Pochettino had his players playing a high tempo high pressing game, he said they needed to be replaced every 4 years because it burns them out, im sure this was in response to Spurs awful season when he got the boot, because Spuds didnt recycle the squad and freshen it up.

Got me thinking, if this is true, the same will apply to our players. We are picking up a lot of niggling injuries lately and our squad is pretty thin on quality outside the starting 11.

Look at Joelinton, he looked exhausted after the last game, the amount of running he gets through.

Could be the grand plan, sign, develop for a few years and sell at a huge profit

[trinitoon]

Players like Kyle Walker and Kante maintain a frightening volume of work at high intensity. Gerard did it. Xavi and Iniesta did a high volume of work in a high tempo game for years.

JoLo always needs his 70th min siesta because he's moving a huge frame with high workload.

We just need more coming off the bench. This is where players like Murphy and even Fraser this term don't cut the mustard and it's a shame that Uncle Fester is out. Miggy doesn't have 90 mins of quality in him.

Howe definitely wants to play this high tempo game but we don't have the squad to maintain that across many competitions.

That's why I'd prefer to sit out Europa next year travelling around playing obscure teams and thicken out our squad for Champions League in 24/25 instead

[Zippity]

It's an interesting point. Two of the biggest proponents of the high press are Klopp and Bielsa. If that timescale is roughly accurate, it fits with how Liverpool are playing now. And Leeds were known for starting like a house on fire then falling off because of the intensity of their workrate.

That's where the 5 subs rule will benefit the bigger clubs as the quality of their replacements is far better than the rest so they can keep their squads fresh without too much drop-off in performances from the 11 on the pitch.

And speaking of squads, you've got ffp limiting what clubs can spend...which benefits the clubs already above the glass ceiling.

A cynic might suggest the powers that be are trying to protect their precious 'chosen' clubs (even more sickening given that they tried to bugger off to form their own money-making league not so long ago)

[Scott Kirkland]

Jeff Bezos runs his Amazon sweat houses like Mauricio Pochettino. Works them into the ground for a couple of years. Then get rid and replace with fresh legs.

[ex_pat_magpie]

Players like Kyle Walker and Kante maintain a frightening volume of work at high intensity. Gerard did it. Xavi and Iniesta did a high volume of work in a high tempo game for years.

JoLo always needs his 70th min siesta because he's moving a huge frame with high workload.

We just need more coming off the bench. This is where players like Murphy and even Fraser this term don't cut the mustard and it's a shame that Uncle Fester is out. Miggy doesn't have 90 mins of quality in him.

Howe definitely wants to play this high tempo game but we don't have the squad to maintain that across many competitions.

That's why I'd prefer to sit out Europa next year travelling around playing obscure teams and thicken out our squad for Champions League in 24/25 instead

Correct Trini. To play a high tempo game week after week as your normal natural style, every member of the squad must be of first team standard and thus the bench apart from injury replacement is normally totally used for tactical adjustments as the coach sees weaknesses and strengths in the opposition.

Obviously with this also a high standard tempo training as well is needed and you can see some players burning out early.

Looking back to KK's early days this is what he was aiming at, and it took opposing managers by surprise, especially those clinging to old fashioned approaches.

[trinitoon]

Regardless of the regime, we've always fared badly with injuries.

Funny thing is though with high press: the harder everyone works TOGETHER; to a man, the less each player needs to work hard themselves.

It has to go hand-in-hand with keep ball. The more possession you have, the less you have to chase and that chasing can therefore be done at an unbelievable intensity. The key is to successfully get the ball back quickly. And not hoof it up the pitch like still we do.

I don't see how you can high press and keep turning over possession as readily as we do. Keepers have to play out from the back, and all of our players need far more technical skill to keep the ball on the grass.

....if we are not careful, we could end up playing Bielsa-ball, which will not burn us out - it will just fill up the physio room.

[Ragatino]

i remember reading a few years back that when Mauricio Pochettino had his players playing a high tempo high pressing game, he said they needed to be replaced every 4 years because it burns them out, im sure this was in response to Spurs awful season when he got the boot, because Spuds didnt recycle the squad and freshen it up.

Got me thinking, if this is true, the same will apply to our players. We are picking up a lot of niggling injuries lately and our squad is pretty thin on quality outside the starting 11.

Look at Joelinton, he looked exhausted after the last game, the amount of running he gets through.

Could be the grand plan, sign, develop for a few years and sell at a huge profit

We need a bigger squad of quality players instead of the Murphy's of the world.

Once we have a 25 man squad of quality we'll share the load more evenly

[Kal]

We need a bigger squad of quality players instead of the Murphy's of the world.

Once we have a 25 man squad of quality we'll share the load more evenly

^^^ This ^^^

[ex_pat_magpie]

We need a bigger squad of quality players instead of the Murphy's of the world.

Once we have a 25 man squad of quality we'll share the load more evenly

Which in effect means three goalies, two quality players for each position, and two quality versatile utility players. Squad complete.