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    Ah good old head we win tails we try again democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The AuldYin View Post
    Ah good old head we win tails we try again democracy.
    3 heads in a row, you're kidding.....let's go again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    That was more than a generation ago and the lies spun by UK Labour and Conservative politicians at the time have been exposed and the Tories have taken us out of the EU aagainst a clear majority of the wishes of the people of Scotland. I don't believe an equivalent referendum would produce the same result today as it did over a generation ago.
    It was a Uk vote.

    Name 10 lies that we’re told.

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    Do you count the way we were persuaded to get us to vote to join the EEC?
    All politicians don't tell the truth all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noahrab View Post
    It was a Uk vote.

    Name 10 lies that we’re told.
    The EU referendum was a UK vote that's correct and it's pretty well documented that taking the Scottish share of the vote in isolation more Scots were for remain than leave. All that proves is that Scotland doesn't really have a voice in UK politics - lie number one proven, Scotland has no voice in UK politics.

    I was referring to the lies told when senior UK politicians came streaming up here just prior to indy ref.

    The North Sea oil and gas reserves are running out - lie
    The EU won't let Scotland stay under its auspices - lie
    Boris will never be PM - lie
    Scotland won't be able to use the Euro - lie
    Sotland won't be able to use Sterling - lie
    You could lose your pension - lie
    Energy bills will be lower if we stay in UK - lie, and what a lie
    Oil and gas taxation would be collected at the port when it leaves UK not Scotland - lie
    Whisky taxation would be collected at the point it leaves UK not Scotland - lie
    Scotland could not afford to take on its share of the UK debt - lie
    Scotland will be bankrupt as it won't receive UK funding via The Barnett Formula - lie
    Scotland is fairly treated by the UK - lie
    Scotland couldn't retain The Queen (now King) as head of state - lie but losing those leeches would be my personal preference anyway
    The NHS is protected under the UK - lie, possibly the funniest one - even funnier than the fuel bill one
    And worst of all, we wouldn't be able to watch Coronation Street - both a lie and a completely pointless thing to say

    I could go on but won't.

    Before you say 'prove they were lies' I'd ask you to prove they weren't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
    Do you count the way we were persuaded to get us to vote to join the EEC?
    All politicians don't tell the truth all the time.
    No politician ever tells the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    The EU referendum was a UK vote that's correct and it's pretty well documented that taking the Scottish share of the vote in isolation more Scots were for remain than leave. All that proves is that Scotland doesn't really have a voice in UK politics - lie number one proven, Scotland has no voice in UK politics.

    I was referring to the lies told when senior UK politicians came streaming up here just prior to indy ref.

    The North Sea oil and gas reserves are running out - lie
    The EU won't let Scotland stay under its auspices - lie
    Boris will never be PM - lie
    Scotland won't be able to use the Euro - lie
    Sotland won't be able to use Sterling - lie
    You could lose your pension - lie
    Energy bills will be lower if we stay in UK - lie, and what a lie
    Oil and gas taxation would be collected at the port when it leaves UK not Scotland - lie
    Whisky taxation would be collected at the point it leaves UK not Scotland - lie
    Scotland could not afford to take on its share of the UK debt - lie
    Scotland will be bankrupt as it won't receive UK funding via The Barnett Formula - lie
    Scotland is fairly treated by the UK - lie
    Scotland couldn't retain The Queen (now King) as head of state - lie but losing those leeches would be my personal preference anyway
    The NHS is protected under the UK - lie, possibly the funniest one - even funnier than the fuel bill one
    And worst of all, we wouldn't be able to watch Coronation Street - both a lie and a completely pointless thing to say

    I could go on but won't.

    Before you say 'prove they were lies' I'd ask you to prove they weren't.
    So oil isn’t running out, it’s a renewable now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    The EU referendum was a UK vote that's correct and it's pretty well documented that taking the Scottish share of the vote in isolation more Scots were for remain than leave. All that proves is that Scotland doesn't really have a voice in UK politics - lie number one proven, Scotland has no voice in UK politics.

    I was referring to the lies told when senior UK politicians came streaming up here just prior to indy ref.

    The North Sea oil and gas reserves are running out - lie
    The EU won't let Scotland stay under its auspices - lie
    Boris will never be PM - lie
    Scotland won't be able to use the Euro - lie
    Sotland won't be able to use Sterling - lie
    You could lose your pension - lie
    Energy bills will be lower if we stay in UK - lie, and what a lie
    Oil and gas taxation would be collected at the port when it leaves UK not Scotland - lie
    Whisky taxation would be collected at the point it leaves UK not Scotland - lie
    Scotland could not afford to take on its share of the UK debt - lie
    Scotland will be bankrupt as it won't receive UK funding via The Barnett Formula - lie
    Scotland is fairly treated by the UK - lie
    Scotland couldn't retain The Queen (now King) as head of state - lie but losing those leeches would be my personal preference anyway
    The NHS is protected under the UK - lie, possibly the funniest one - even funnier than the fuel bill one
    And worst of all, we wouldn't be able to watch Coronation Street - both a lie and a completely pointless thing to say

    I could go on but won't.

    Before you say 'prove they were lies' I'd ask you to prove they weren't.
    You're the kind of ranter who it's a waste of time to try and discuss anything with.

    Surprising since you took the Queen's shilling, but converts are nearly always the loudest.

    Liz Truss is your best chance of independence so treat her well, without her bungling you'll have no chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deebunked View Post
    You're the kind of ranter who it's a waste of time to try and discuss anything with.

    Surprising since you took the Queen's shilling, but converts are nearly always the loudest.

    Liz Truss is your best chance of independence so treat her well, without her bungling you'll have no chance.
    Only thing I’d disagree with is the last sentence, they said the same about BJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deebunked View Post
    You're the kind of ranter who it's a waste of time to try and discuss anything with.

    Surprising since you took the Queen's shilling, but converts are nearly always the loudest.

    Liz Truss is your best chance of independence so treat her well, without her bungling you'll have no chance.
    The Queen's Shilling? What year did that stop being a thing? Was it 1879? I think it was. I'm not as young as I used to be but FFS.

    I was paid a day's wages for attending an attestation day, is that what you mean? Certainly don't remember being given a shilling and told that it constituted a binding agreement between me and anyone else - but then it was 1984 and not 1784.

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