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Thread: No UK trade deal with America in at least the short and medium term

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    Of course we can forthrightly express our views but the the fact is that the Conservative government signed the Northern Ireland Protocol with the European Union. Now it is having to face the consequences of negotiating a poor deal it wants to break International Law, which governs such deals. The government is thus deep into the mire. You seem to think that negotiating a deal, signing it and then breaking it is totally legitimate.

    The UK cannot bestride the planet doing whatever it likes. It finds that saying "p­iss off" inevitably results in serious problems. You seem to believe that we are still in the days of the British Empire, when we did not have to be in the right, we just had to have the overwhelming force to do whatever we wanted.

    The ongoing blunder of the Northern Ireland Protocol is regarded very seriously in America. Presidents going back at very least to Jack Kennedy have made much of their Irish roots. Biden will not tolerate the breaking of the agreed Northern Ireland Protocol because it puts at risk the peace in Northern Ireland and Eire. His family roots are in Eire 65 miles from the border. Thus any chance that the UK had of getting a trade agreement with America has vanished.

    The Conservative government has done incredibly badly in this entire situation. Never mind though, we are the UK and can telly anybody to "p­iss off".
    Last edited by _Stefan_Kuntz; 21-09-2022 at 06:20 PM.

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    Of course they can. We can do what we want. We cant be in europe, and out. Being in harms britain. If i was truss i would greet Biden with the words" keep out of our politics you irish mud dweller." Were OUT OUT OUT. Fck america.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psaw View Post
    We cant be in europe, and out.
    The UK has no choice but to be in Europe, which is simply a continent.
    The UK had a choice of being in or out of the European Union.

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    You persist in your nonsense that the UK can do whatever it wants and face no consequences, presumably because it is so mighty. Well, Alf Garnett, that is simply not true. The UK must obey international law or there will be consequences. Furthermore the specific proposed breaking of International Law regarding the Northern Ireland Protocol has cost the UK a free trade deal with America. It is because a lot of American politicians have family history in Eire / Northern Ireland. That includes Presidents from Biden back to Kennedy. So losing the chance of a free trade deal is a seismic blunder when the UK's rival countries and the European Union are progressing with talks about free trade agreements with America.

    You present the UK as a tough thug in the worldwide political / economic arena. It can do what it wants, nothing can stop it. That is a substantial misrepresentation. The reality is that the UK has to negotiate and then either do a deal or not. It has to have friends. It has to obey International Law. It cannot simply do what it wants all the time, regardless of negative effects on other countries. If that happened there would be disastrous consequences. It would have a lot of powerful enemies and no friends.
    Last edited by _Stefan_Kuntz; 21-09-2022 at 10:15 PM.

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