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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
    Footnall clubs do exactly that.
    They can have a A,B,C catagory system for football matches.

    A Forest v Derby game could be cat A, £35 a ticket, whislt a cup game v Halfax would be cat C at £20 a ticket and kids for a quid.

    THAT IS SUPPLY AND DEMAND
    The more who want it, dictates a price.
    I take your point Tricky...but in a genuine ‘supply and demand’ situation the tickets would become more expensive the scarcer they get and that doesn’t happen until unscrupulous touts and the like get their grubby hands on matters.

    Forest v Derby (or Leicester) is always going to be a more attractive event than, for example, Forest v Gillingham and will be priced accordingly in the same way as an item of clothing from Next or M&S is likely to be more expensive than a similar item from Primark...however, in the dim and distant when I’ve queued half way round the BBG to get tickets for Wembley I didn’t ever see someone nip out of the ticket office and say, ‘blimey, must be 15,000 out there and we’ve only got 10,000 tickets left...I know, let’s double the price!’

    That is the ultimate example of ‘supply and demand’ in a football context...it is also unscrupulous and unfair and something the touts are well practised in. Unfortunately my fear is that there are far too many prepared to act like touts in our current society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    Then you ‘guessed’ wrong. Not sure not ‘accepting’ it is ‘ignorance’ but I’d welcome your examples. Happy to give you some of my own too but...after you, AF.
    GP beat me to it with exhibit a, the biggest fee-charging non-corporate sales platform in the western world, eBay (Facebook marketplace is actually bigger). I’ve scoured the platform and can’t see ‘sell to the most deserving case/biggest sob story at the price they choose’. It’s all about top dollar and that’s between private individuals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    I take your point Tricky...but in a genuine ‘supply and demand’ situation the tickets would become more expensive the scarcer they get and that doesn’t happen until unscrupulous touts and the like get their grubby hands on matters.

    Forest v Derby (or Leicester) is always going to be a more attractive event than, for example, Forest v Gillingham and will be priced accordingly in the same way as an item of clothing from Next or M&S is likely to be more expensive than a similar item from Primark...however, in the dim and distant when I’ve queued half way round the BBG to get tickets for Wembley I didn’t ever see someone nip out of the ticket office and say, ‘blimey, must be 15,000 out there and we’ve only got 10,000 tickets left...I know, let’s double the price!’

    That is the ultimate example of ‘supply and demand’ in a football context...it is also unscrupulous and unfair and something the touts are well practised in. Unfortunately my fear is that there are far too many prepared to act like touts in our current society.
    You’ve actually provided my second example for me, that’s a PERFECT example of supply/demand. When one seller decides not to sell to the highest bidder, someone else (in this case the touts) will do so. You can’t be selective in this rA, you have to include the whole market

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    rA wrote:
    'P.S. Perhaps you should consider that while the last four putting the world to rights - as you call them - have provoked in excess of 9,000 replies between them, the average football related thread generates around 25'

    There was a footie thread!!
    Bugger, I must have missed it!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    GP beat me to it with exhibit a, the biggest fee-charging non-corporate sales platform in the western world, eBay (Facebook marketplace is actually bigger). I’ve scoured the platform and can’t see ‘sell to the most deserving case/biggest sob story at the price they choose’. It’s all about top dollar and that’s between private individuals.
    Correct on auction items, yes. Not so on "buy it now" and items where offers may be made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
    Footnall clubs do exactly that.
    They can have a A,B,C catagory system for football matches.

    A Forest v Derby game could be cat A, £35 a ticket, whislt a cup game v Halfax would be cat C at £20 a ticket and kids for a quid.

    THAT IS SUPPLY AND DEMAND
    The more who want it, dictates a price.
    Port Vale is category A, on advice from the police......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    GP beat me to it with exhibit a, the biggest fee-charging non-corporate sales platform in the western world, eBay (Facebook marketplace is actually bigger). I’ve scoured the platform and can’t see ‘sell to the most deserving case/biggest sob story at the price they choose’. It’s all about top dollar and that’s between private individuals.
    I’m sorry, I genuinely don’t get your point. Of course eBay is about supply and demand...it’s effectively a public internet auction...and of course touts (as you go on to mention) operate on a ‘supply and demand’ basis...I’ve never attempted to deny that.
    The difference between us would then appear to be that, morally, I don’t accept that society should operate according to the ‘standards’ of parasitic touts or eBay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macstheman View Post
    rA wrote:
    'P.S. Perhaps you should consider that while the last four putting the world to rights - as you call them - have provoked in excess of 9,000 replies between them, the average football related thread generates around 25'

    There was a footie thread!!
    Bugger, I must have missed it!!
    Tbf mac, for one reason or another there hasn’t been much football for about three weeks and the thread about our change of manager has attracted just 33 replies in eleven days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    Tbf mac, for one reason or another there hasn’t been much football for about three weeks and the thread about our change of manager has attracted just 33 replies in eleven days.
    He's a gamble, despite his track record, as is every new player or manager. If we lose today, maybe the Derby metaverse will explode. Apart from a couple of interviews, which sound excellent BTW, we have nothing to complain or be complimentary about.

    Give it a couple of defeats and the knives will be out.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadAmster View Post
    Port Vale is category A, on advice from the police......
    Only for you, we can behave

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