A few topics for Starmer to address in Liverpool...

[The Bedlington Terrier]

WHy are peoople moaning about mortgage interest rates? The rate today is 6.59%.
After 23 different houses in 23 years whilst doing my bit, we decided that we should buy a house in March 1988. I was earning £10500 per annum at the time. We purchased the house when the mortgae interest rate was 9.78%, within just 2 months it had risen to 12.75% and within the year it was 13.46% and continued to rise until October 1990 when it was 15.24%. It was September 1992 before it dropped to a level just below our original rate of 9.78% --it became 8.98%. It remained between 6% and 8% until May 2001 when it stabilised slightly.That's life and you get on with things ----or at least ---that's what we used to do.

Nowadays, as swiss said, the public want the state to bale them out and tell them what to do. Sadly, this is the way that many have been conditioned to do and they are unable to work things out for themselves and I am still paying taxes to help pay their benefits!

Difference was Supersub6 you could buy a decent house up north for about 4 grand in 1974.

[Supersub6]

Difference was Supersub6 you could buy a decent house up north for about 4 grand in 1974.

BT, what has 1974 got to do with anything that I said, I was in Germany in those days and came back to an area in England some 4 years later where house prices were well into the £150,000 plus price range. I was talking about the late 1980s when a lot of those moaning about things would have been born.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

BT, what has 1974 got to do with anything that I said, I was in Germany in those days and came back to an area in England some 4 years later where house prices were well into the £150,000 plus price range. I was talking about the late 1980s when a lot of those moaning about things would have been born.

Working at McDonalds on £9.00 per hour or working 40 hours a week as a carer on a minimum wage of a tenner is not really conducive to saving up for a deposit on a £200,000 gaff though is it mein freund?

[sinkov]

"Racism. It’s still alive and kicking in the UK as well as the good old USA! The latest Met Police’s victim Chris Kaba's family say the "whole world" needs to see footage of his death after the unarmed black man was shot in the head by a firearms officer following a police chase in South London. On Wednesday, Mr Kaba’s grieving family saw body-worn footage from officers in two police cars who boxed in his Audi Q8 late on September 5 in Streatham.
Shot dead for being black? What a country we all live in."

Another fine, honest, decent, law abiding citizen 'shot dead for being black' ?

"Seeing as Britain clearly hasn’t the wit to come up with a symbol sufficiently intersectional, and noting that George Floyd is getting a bit long in the tooth, the left have decided to choose the next British icon for us.

Auditions are being held as we speak. Making a good case for himself in the early running is Chris Kaba, shot dead by police last Monday. The media are of course relying heavily on the usual soubriquets of ’24-year-old unarmed black man’, ‘up-and-coming musician’ and ‘soon-to-be father’, whereas the reality is a little more run-of-the-mill.

Kaba was a gang member and convicted felon (four years for possession (and discharge) of a firearm ‘with intent to cause fear of violence’). You couldn’t find a nicer fella though. All he did was refuse to stop for police when his number plate was linked to further firearm crimes; led plod on a high-speed pursuit; refused demands to exit his vehicle 12 times when cornered, then drove directly as an officer, who responded appropriately. It’s quite an achievement to get shot by police in Britain, where coppers usually defend themselves with a truncheon and the latest colours of Maybelline, but full credit to Kaba; he managed it."

[The Bedlington Terrier]

"Racism. It’s still alive and kicking in the UK as well as the good old USA! The latest Met Police’s victim Chris Kaba's family say the "whole world" needs to see footage of his death after the unarmed black man was shot in the head by a firearms officer following a police chase in South London. On Wednesday, Mr Kaba’s grieving family saw body-worn footage from officers in two police cars who boxed in his Audi Q8 late on September 5 in Streatham.
Shot dead for being black? What a country we all live in."

Another fine, honest, decent, law abiding citizen 'shot dead for being black' ?

"Seeing as Britain clearly hasn’t the wit to come up with a symbol sufficiently intersectional, and noting that George Floyd is getting a bit long in the tooth, the left have decided to choose the next British icon for us.

Auditions are being held as we speak. Making a good case for himself in the early running is Chris Kaba, shot dead by police last Monday. The media are of course relying heavily on the usual soubriquets of ’24-year-old unarmed black man’, ‘up-and-coming musician’ and ‘soon-to-be father’, whereas the reality is a little more run-of-the-mill.

Kaba was a gang member and convicted felon (four years for possession (and discharge) of a firearm ‘with intent to cause fear of violence’). You couldn’t find a nicer fella though. All he did was refuse to stop for police when his number plate was linked to further firearm crimes; led plod on a high-speed pursuit; refused demands to exit his vehicle 12 times when cornered, then drove directly as an officer, who responded appropriately. It’s quite an achievement to get shot by police in Britain, where coppers usually defend themselves with a truncheon and the latest colours of Maybelline, but full credit to Kaba; he managed it."

The Met's defence narrative is dafter than Quosi Modo's defence of letting our imported goods prices going through the roof. Frankly, I have no faith in either of them.

All I know is an unarmed black man was shot dead with a bullet to his head by an armed white policeman. Any narrative to defend such an action is entirely misplaced IMHO. .

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I wonder how long it will take to kick this killing into the long grass and why no comment from our latest Home Secretary?

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...16c1c113aab21e

[Supersub6]

Working at McDonalds on £9.00 per hour or working 40 hours a week as a carer on a minimum wage of a tenner is not really conducive to saving up for a deposit on a £200,000 gaff though is it mein freund?

Working at McDonalds on £9 per hour gives you a gross amount of £18720 per annum. As I said previously, I was earning £10500 per annum and houses were over £150000 and we managed, as did lots of our friends, some who were on less money than I was.
I was employed by the Royal Air Force and also worked privately in two other jobs to get money together and we did without many luxuries.

Would I recommend it? No --We were very frugal to get what we required and because of that and careful use of our money ---I am still paying over two grand per annum in taxes at the age of 75+! I never had a job, in cluding my own business where I took home more than £15000 per annum.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Working at McDonalds on £9 per hour gives you a gross amount of £18720 per annum. As I said previously, I was earning £10500 per annum and houses were over £150000 and we managed, as did lots of our friends, some who were on less money than I was.
I was employed by the Royal Air Force and also worked privately in two other jobs to get money together and we did without many luxuries.

Would I recommend it? No --We were very frugal to get what we required and because of that and careful use of our money ---I am still paying over two grand per annum in taxes at the age of 75+! I never had a job, in cluding my own business where I took home more than £15000 per annum.

Your story reminds me of the overwhelming need for Trade Unions and a Socialist government mein freund.

[Supersub6]

Your story reminds me of the overwhelming need for Trade Unions and a Socialist government mein freund.

THankfully, no Trade Union involvement in the Armed Forces, even these days and I have never, ever belonged to a Union nor needed anyone to fight any battle on my behalf. Never had any confidence in any government to look after the interests of the population, although it is much worse these days than it used to be.
Brought up in a working class house with parents who were strictly Labour until they changed allegiance in the early 1970s after I had joined up.

[sinkov]

THankfully, no Trade Union involvement in the Armed Forces, even these days and I have never, ever belonged to a Union nor needed anyone to fight any battle on my behalf. Never had any confidence in any government to look after the interests of the population, although it is much worse these days than it used to be.
Brought up in a working class house with parents who were strictly Labour until they changed allegiance in the early 1970s after I had joined up.

And yet Sub, I have heard it many times from Lefties that Grammar Schools had to go as they were 'elitist'. My mum was a dinner lady at the High School, my dad worked night shift in a factory. I don't think the parents of either of us would have claimed that either they, or their children, were part on an 'elite'.

I often wonder just which planet Lefties live on, it doesn't seem to be this one.