What we need to do

[Psaw]

When Labour get in, this is how it should go. Income tax up to 60%. We need to tax evil business. Levy on profits. Everyone earns the same wage regardless.

With higher tax, pay normal wage to benefit people, plus a bonus for being ill or whatever.

Turn Buckingham Palace etc into flats for single families, immigrants off the boats. Flog the priceless paintings, furniture in there so we can up benefits.

Keep Sandringham for the King who can host freedom fighters from around the world, ISIS, the Russians, muslim extremists, so called, Marxists, the Chinese etc. The royal palaces were built on punitive taxes over centuries on the british people.

Lets put them to good use. King Charles is one of us, he can host parties for Putin, Chi, Isis leaders etc, Corbyn could be his arranger.

Hire ferries to bring immigrants over three times a day, they have suffered enough. Put them in Windsor Castle. Pay them immediately, free phone etc.
Where they come from doesnt matter.

Politically we must raise taxes its the only way. Anti discrimination, and black lives matter, if anyone falls foul, they must be jailed and re- educated.

The bbc must have a finance boost of a billion for more of the same, the NHS must get multi billions, the admin is doing a fine job.

Christmas must be got rid of, along with religion. Who needs it when we have Labour.

That is all. Brothers, fight for freedom from oppressors, take to the streets......

p.s, rejoin the EU. Nigel of Wisbech Road.

[griff]

Can I suggest an alternative Frank? Just make life fair for all, not just the rich. That’s it really.

[Psaw]

You remind me of a problem at work. Someone said its like this, when it wasnt, but was totally convinced he was right. There are situations in your life, away from politics, that you think are like this, but are not. Every one has.

Not that you are totally wrong, but in important fundamental ways, you are.

And in those ways, you mind set cannot be changed. As mine cant.

The obvious, to me the way socialism is wrong is that it isnt democratic, it cant be, its not built like that. I know what your going to say, that it is.

Socialism can only exist effectively under a dictatorship, and when that happens, its finished, no one wants that. And when the elephant in the room becomes visible, that it doesnt work, lessons are not learnt.

Its would be interesting to look at that psychologically, the dynamics of how something overtly silly and unworkable, becomes a reason for revolution, war, and murder. Oh, and economic disaster. Over and over.

It will be interesting to see how you explain away the above, when all rational argument says you are wrong, but you wont have it.

Even though socialim doesnt work. Ir doesnt work, it doesnt work, it doesnt work.

Truss is right over the alliance that opposes growth. You wont have it, but the rich pay extreme amounts of tax money, it keeps this country alive.

We MUST have the rich, the country should be geared to making money. To pay for free healthcare, social services, blah di blah. Which is where we agree, we must look after those less fortunate, but not as the driver of all that is. Absolutely not. Disastrous.

If the rich go, the true destiny of socialism will prevail, famine, destitution, s h it of all kinds.

But you will still think things are good and vituous. Can you see now where people like me are coming from? The paradox is that it me that is defending and preserving the social state, not you. You want to destroy it.

I know what you are feeling now. Rage, frustration, maybe even hate. Thank god people like me always win in the end. You should take that as a democratic pointer. YOU ARE WRONG.

[_Stefan_Kuntz]

Frank, unfortunately for your genuine far right attitude and your caricature far left attitude, the Labour government's policies will be a long way from either of them. The Labour government will implement policies that are a little to the left of centre, indeed in the run up to the General Election such policies will enable those voters who are on the left of the Conservative spectrum to vote Labour, rather than for the considerably right of centre policies of the current utter shambles.

[griff]

Aye, what Stefan said. No political ideology is truly democratic, Frank, just look at how the idiot Truss became PM with 0.2% of the electorate voting for her. and the economic disaster that she and Boris have brought about. The Labour brand of socialism has never been a dictatorship, but has certainly done no worse than this lot. Thatcher had to sell the family silver to buy success and that hasn’t gone well now has it? Then May told us all that there is no magic money tree, but hold on, now there is! So that’s the Tories undemocratic and dealing in unsound economics and increasing national borrowing to previously unseen heights. They certainly haven’t learned any lessons Frank - trickle down economics has been disproved time after time so the idiot thinks she’ll bet the house on it. Everything that you blame Labour for is worse in the current brand of conservatism.

Incidentally, you’re right about the rich, we need them. However we need to ensure that they are not evading tax and putting money offshore that should be taxed here. I want to see innovation, investment and job creation rather than surplus profits simple being shared out between opportunist business leaders. They may be made to do these things because trust isn’t enough, which is one way in which Truss is going wrong.

You want to get away from this idea you seem to have that all socialists are communist. I used to think you were messing around but you’ve now proved that you really believe it. It’s the equivalent of me saying that all Conservatives are fascists.

No rage, no frustration. When this all falls apart, as it inevitably will, let’s see how you like watching the world laughing at us. I’d be laughing too if it wasn’t all so inevitable.