Budget. Is the Toxic party for real?

[Supersub6]

While we keep breeding degenerate halfwits and sending them to Eton we have no hope mon ami. The class system is self-perpetuating, and the Toxic party are playing you and all who vote for them like a fiddle.

Who thought of the idea that to be a nurse you have to have a degree? WHo was it who spouted on about Education, education, education?
Please refresh my memory, it was quite some time ago and I seem to have forgotten.
So the class system will insist that I am fodder and uneducated because I never went to Uni and never got a degree, whereas, no doubt those who have a degree, such as demonstrators and members of "NO More OIl' will consider that I am of a much lower class than them.
It's a strange world.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Never mind worrying about a university education Supersub6, the halfwit Education Secretary of the time Sir Gavin F*cking Williamson, set our kids back 5 years of their academic lives.

[Supersub6]

Never mind worrying about a university education Supersub6, the halfwit Education Secretary of the time Sir Gavin F*cking Williamson, set our kids back 5 years of their academic lives.

Aided and abetted by lots and lots of parents who can't be bothered to even train their children to go to the toilet, how to read, how to use cutlery. Where does this burden fall? On teachers ---who should actually be teaching children things about life. Don't blame the government for everything BT. Society is dying on its feet and more and more kids are being used as a way to get a house, a way to get more money etc., etc.
We will give you more money to get through the recession etc., etc. ---strangely I don't remember my parents getting help and I certainly didn't get any help when bringin my children up through recession ---and still they all moan instead of using their brains and working things out.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Aided and abetted by lots and lots of parents who can't be bothered to even train their children to go to the toilet, how to read, how to use cutlery. Where does this burden fall? On teachers ---who should actually be teaching children things about life. Don't blame the government for everything BT. Society is dying on its feet and more and more kids are being used as a way to get a house, a way to get more money etc., etc.
We will give you more money to get through the recession etc., etc. ---strangely I don't remember my parents getting help and I certainly didn't get any help when bringin my children up through recession ---and still they all moan instead of using their brains and working things out.

It's because at Stage 1 in their development at school the impoverished kids are trapped and are never able to get out of the poverty trap mein freund.

[Swissclaret]

It starts at primary school level here s_c and it just goes steadily worse unless a parent can afford private education.

Every child should have the same start in life but sadly the Tory government constantly row back on pledges and promises.

No matter what a Labour government does the Tories just undo it.

Free School Meals for our schoolkids would be a great start in the "Levelling Up" promise but we might as well as ask for free gold nuggets for everyone.

I agree that every child should have the same start in life in an ideal world. But the world is not ideal. It never has and never will be.

I suggest that the country needs to look at history and learn from it. In a developed society no child should go hungry. In my time. School meals were the norm. What happened to that?

My parents were working class. I went to a Catholic Junior School that focused on the three «*R/s*». What happened to that? We were taught to try to be the best at whatever we did - including the 11 plus. What happened to that mentality?

I was given opportunity that I took through hard work and application. There is nothing to stop any child working hard to achieve.

[sinkov]

Never mind worrying about a university education Supersub6, the halfwit Education Secretary of the time Sir Gavin F*cking Williamson, set our kids back 5 years of their academic lives.

Jesus fecking wept, Gavin Williamson, wibble wibble, Toxic Tories, wibble wibble, Suella Braverman, wibble wibble, Far Right, wibble wibble, Asylum Seekers, wibble wibble, Old Etonians, wibble wibble, Orange Man, wibble wibble, NHS, wibble wibble, Israel, wibble wibble, Food Banks, wibble wibble, on and on it goes, utterly infantile, irrelevant drivel.

I can't work you out mon ami, do you have a mental age of six, are you demented, or are you just pissed all time ? I think we should be told.

[army88]

That's the reason after 53 years of Labour party membership and "on the door" activism I tore up the card and left the party Dd.

We needed Corbyn style politics, but the ideology was too big a change for our spineless electorate. Shame because the difference would have been seminal.

Now we have Starmer who is a Toxic party hybrid. We are f*cked, make no mistake.

What terrorist supporting politics ?

[army88]

Aided and abetted by lots and lots of parents who can't be bothered to even train their children to go to the toilet, how to read, how to use cutlery. Where does this burden fall? On teachers ---who should actually be teaching children things about life. Don't blame the government for everything BT. Society is dying on its feet and more and more kids are being used as a way to get a house, a way to get more money etc., etc.
We will give you more money to get through the recession etc., etc. ---strangely I don't remember my parents getting help and I certainly didn't get any help when bringin my children up through recession ---and still they all moan instead of using their brains and working things out.

You won’t win Sub - even though every word you w put is true , the toxic party are to blame for everything that’s happened in the last 50 years

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I agree that every child should have the same start in life in an ideal world. But the world is not ideal. It never has and never will be.

I suggest that the country needs to look at history and learn from it. In a developed society no child should go hungry. In my time. School meals were the norm. What happened to that?

My parents were working class. I went to a Catholic Junior School that focused on the three «*R/s*». What happened to that? We were taught to try to be the best at whatever we did - including the 11 plus. What happened to that mentality?

I was given opportunity that I took through hard work and application. There is nothing to stop any child working hard to achieve.

Back in the halcyon days you lived in s_c that philosophy was entirely workable. Sadly, not now. Grammar schools are not available for the brighter primary school kids like Supersub6 and sinkov were back in the day, single mums on Universal Credit living on the Stoops Estate in Burnley or the Oldham's Estate in Bolton have no chance whatsoever of being able to properly feed their kids, never mind think about the benefits of education.

I don't think you have any idea how bad things are here s_c. Which civilized western country allows paucity to strike disabled veterans to such an extent they are forced to live on the fecking street?

We have the money it's just the fact the Toxic party would rather give each other dodgy VIP contracts to procure vast sums of taxpayers' money to provide the square root of feck all.

[sinkov]

" single mums on Universal Credit living on the Stoops Estate in Burnley or the Oldham's Estate in Bolton have no chance whatsoever of being able to properly feed their kids, never mind think about the benefits of education."

Ah yes, the Stoops Estate in Burnley, tell me about it, or rather mon ami, I'll tell you. Mrs S got her first teaching job at Myrtle Bank on the Stoops Estate in 1970, it was a sink estate, it was a **** hole, I worked at Burnley Fire Station, we were regulars on the Stoops Estate, I felt sorry for the decent people who had to live there, and there were plenty amongst the dross, including single mums. Between me and the missus there wasn't much happening on Stoops that we didn't know about. I could have written a book about it, and this was the 60s and 70s, a period when, apart from 4 years when Fred Teeth mistakenly thought he ran the country, it was run by Labour governments and the Trade Unions.

Plus ca change eh ? And now it's all the Tories fault, you really haven't got a clue mon ami.