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  1. #11
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    It's worth remembering way back that the Ogren takeover was brokered by none other than Tony Asghar. Ogren bought the club and installed Asghar as Sporting Director, it wasn't as if he replied to an advert.

    Asghar sold Ogren on his vision, which as we can all see was and still is a template used at other clubs, usually much bigger and successful clubs. I would say that Ogren wanted to buy the club and Tony's Template sounded exactly what he wanted to hear. A template learned at management school and drawn from learnings at the likes of PSV, Bayern and Man City.

    The expansion of the Academy with spiralling payroll has been a failure overall, just my opinion right enough.

    The recruitment has been - overall - a failure.
    Offshore listed the number of terrible signings and when you review the payroll cost, someone else's money to Tony by the way, the cost of the failures and wrongly extended contracts has been high. I also question the type of player we've targeted. I'm not going into names here though.

    Then we have the management structure, Sporting Director, a CEO, and a few other expensive executives, and you have to question if we're getting value for that investment. I wonder if Mark Ogren ever does?

    Then we have the revolving managers door, finally leaving us too skint and probably too embarrassed to appoint another experienced manager, what decent manager would touch it, so we end up giving it to possibly one of the least experienced coaches ever to sit at the managers desk.

    I can't blame Mark Ogren, I'm sure he acts at all times in the best interests of making the club successful, but if I could blame him for anything it would be for allowing so much of his own cash to be wasted by Tony Asghar, who no doubt is planning his next keynote lecture in Sevilla as I type this.

    We may survive this season but the fact we're even in danger is testament to badly spent money and the spending of that money lies at one persons door, Tony Asghar.

    If we do survive I hope very much that Mr Ogren keeps the club but changes the Sporting Director, appointing one who knows a good player, and can find a coach to work with that will get our players playing attractive winning football. Or just winning would be a great start.

  2. #12
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    Great post SA.

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    But from a business perspective TA has provided profits at the club via sales of signed players and youth. I'm guessing this was a major part of the vision from TA and the brief from MO.

    So from the fans point of view we are experienced enough to see it heading towards an unmitigated disaster. However, from the owners point of view it's been a real success so far.

  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryTheTerror View Post
    But from a business perspective TA has provided profits at the club via sales of signed players and youth. I'm guessing this was a major part of the vision from TA and the brief from MO.

    So from the fans point of view we are experienced enough to see it heading towards an unmitigated disaster. However, from the owners point of view it's been a real success so far.
    Some young players have been sold for a pittance and Hearts were given one in gift wrapping.I would doubt even someone as naive as Ogren thinks of that as success.

  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by stokearab View Post
    It's worth remembering way back that the Ogren takeover was brokered by none other than Tony Asghar. Ogren bought the club and installed Asghar as Sporting Director, it wasn't as if he replied to an advert.

    Asghar sold Ogren on his vision, which as we can all see was and still is a template used at other clubs, usually much bigger and successful clubs. I would say that Ogren wanted to buy the club and Tony's Template sounded exactly what he wanted to hear. A template learned at management school and drawn from learnings at the likes of PSV, Bayern and Man City.

    The expansion of the Academy with spiralling payroll has been a failure overall, just my opinion right enough.

    The recruitment has been - overall - a failure.
    Offshore listed the number of terrible signings and when you review the payroll cost, someone else's money to Tony by the way, the cost of the failures and wrongly extended contracts has been high. I also question the type of player we've targeted. I'm not going into names here though.

    Then we have the management structure, Sporting Director, a CEO, and a few other expensive executives, and you have to question if we're getting value for that investment. I wonder if Mark Ogren ever does?

    Then we have the revolving managers door, finally leaving us too skint and probably too embarrassed to appoint another experienced manager, what decent manager would touch it, so we end up giving it to possibly one of the least experienced coaches ever to sit at the managers desk.

    I can't blame Mark Ogren, I'm sure he acts at all times in the best interests of making the club successful, but if I could blame him for anything it would be for allowing so much of his own cash to be wasted by Tony Asghar, who no doubt is planning his next keynote lecture in Sevilla as I type this.

    We may survive this season but the fact we're even in danger is testament to badly spent money and the spending of that money lies at one persons door, Tony Asghar.

    If we do survive I hope very much that Mr Ogren keeps the club but changes the Sporting Director, appointing one who knows a good player, and can find a coach to work with that will get our players playing attractive winning football. Or just winning would be a great start.
    Wonderful post Stokie Boy.At least some other posters(not you) and fans are coming around to the view i have always held towards our Sporting Director.

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by GUNBOAT View Post
    Some young players have been sold for a pittance and Hearts were given one in gift wrapping.I would doubt even someone as naive as Ogren thinks of that as success.
    As an investor living in a different country I'd imagine he looks at the overall performance of the company so I suspect he does care for the details too much.

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