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    Stop the Boats!


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    Might there be a glimmer of hope for these migrants after all?

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...b9e74393&ei=15

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    Is this what the right-wing whack jobs really want?

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...54013dbc&ei=74

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Is this what the right-wing whack jobs really want?

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...54013dbc&ei=74
    Funny just posted underneath your condescending comments

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...rn/ar-AA18yw8a

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    BT, conflating multiple issues like this does not help to resolve the complex issues involved.

    Not everyone arriving on British shores are genuine asylum seekers. If they were, they would seek asylum in the first country they encounter - their goal being to escape the persecution or fears that make them genuinely in need of care and protection. Many are economic migrants who are not fleeing anything.

    Meanwhile, Government is spending millions on feeding and housing criminals (their entry is illegal), even giving them spending money, whilst people who are legally in the country are struggling to make ends meet, are being pushed down the list for social housing and so on. People who have paid their taxes, paid their NI, live legally in the country, cannot get to see a doctor or go to a hospital whilst people in Britain illegally have access to such services.

    It all makes the Mad Hatter’s tea party look quite sane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swissclaret View Post
    BT, conflating multiple issues like this does not help to resolve the complex issues involved.

    Not everyone arriving on British shores are genuine asylum seekers. If they were, they would seek asylum in the first country they encounter - their goal being to escape the persecution or fears that make them genuinely in need of care and protection. Many are economic migrants who are not fleeing anything.

    Meanwhile, Government is spending millions on feeding and housing criminals (their entry is illegal), even giving them spending money, whilst people who are legally in the country are struggling to make ends meet, are being pushed down the list for social housing and so on. People who have paid their taxes, paid their NI, live legally in the country, cannot get to see a doctor or go to a hospital whilst people in Britain illegally have access to such services.

    It all makes the Mad Hatter’s tea party look quite sane.
    Swiss, while I cannot disagree with what you state in paragraph 2 I do take issue with some of the statements made in paragraph 3.

    When you talk of the lack of social housing, this surely goes back to the 1980's when local councils were made to comply with Thatcher's "Right to but policy" where council houses were sold to their tenant at a fraction of the house value. Furthermore using punitive funding cuts by the government, councils were encouraged to sell off their remaining housing stock to private companies. However the councils were still tasked with finding accommodation for the homeless.

    You also referred to not being able to see a doctor, this is more of a problem caused by the government underfunding the NHS over several years.

    Then we had Liz Truss, with her chancellor causing the countries economy to flatten, leading to the current cost of living crisis.

    The current government have hid for too long behind Brexit, Covid and now people crossing the channel in boats.
    It is high time for our prime minister to tell the truth to the people, but I do not expect that to happen. Unfortunately I can not see any of the other political parties doing a better job, but perhaps they should have a chance to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vintage Claret View Post
    Swiss, while I cannot disagree with what you state in paragraph 2 I do take issue with some of the statements made in paragraph 3.

    When you talk of the lack of social housing, this surely goes back to the 1980's when local councils were made to comply with Thatcher's "Right to but policy" where council houses were sold to their tenant at a fraction of the house value. Furthermore using punitive funding cuts by the government, councils were encouraged to sell off their remaining housing stock to private companies. However the councils were still tasked with finding accommodation for the homeless.

    You also referred to not being able to see a doctor, this is more of a problem caused by the government underfunding the NHS over several years.

    Then we had Liz Truss, with her chancellor causing the countries economy to flatten, leading to the current cost of living crisis.

    The current government have hid for too long behind Brexit, Covid and now people crossing the channel in boats.
    It is high time for our prime minister to tell the truth to the people, but I do not expect that to happen. Unfortunately I can not see any of the other political parties doing a better job, but perhaps they should have a chance to do so.
    If the Tory Government had spent a fraction of the wasted money on making the asylum process fit for purpose, there would be no issue and we'd be quids in.

    But since they came to power they have invested f*** all into it and now have the temerity to whinge about a problem they've caused by their own incompetence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swissclaret View Post
    BT, conflating multiple issues like this does not help to resolve the complex issues involved.

    Not everyone arriving on British shores are genuine asylum seekers. If they were, they would seek asylum in the first country they encounter - their goal being to escape the persecution or fears that make them genuinely in need of care and protection. Many are economic migrants who are not fleeing anything.

    Meanwhile, Government is spending millions on feeding and housing criminals (their entry is illegal), even giving them spending money, whilst people who are legally in the country are struggling to make ends meet, are being pushed down the list for social housing and so on. People who have paid their taxes, paid their NI, live legally in the country, cannot get to see a doctor or go to a hospital whilst people in Britain illegally have access to such services.

    It all makes the Mad Hatter’s tea party look quite sane.
    Let's just do what your next door neighbours do and not answer distress calls and let them drown in the Med eh S_c?

    Not in my name we won't.

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    And people wonder why we voted "Out"!

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...2ce636c3&ei=14

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    And people wonder why we voted "Out"!

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...2ce636c3&ei=14
    It's because we voted out that we can no longer return them.

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