Cardiff City Post Match Thoughts

[CAMiller]

Well I don't know what was most agonising, the way we played in the first half, not knowing what was happening in the second half due to lack of text updates on MM and the BBC or the plethora of timeouts on FootyMad as I refreshed The way things were going I was going to ask if we should be thinking about getting Patrick Viera in for the last 9 games. A bit tongue in cheek maybe but Palace obviously recognised that they needed to do something to protect their league status. Should we?

Thoughts?

[Derbymiller]

Hudderfield made the right decision they brought in experience that can motivate the players to achieve more than they should be able to. I know Taylor was a long term recruitment, but the first job is to stay up. Taylor needs to really buck up his ideas, because that team were not up for that game, peltier is a liability, he has been all season but MT loves him and wants to give him a new contract, I hope the board are smart enough not to let that happen. The loss of rathbone, wiles and the sale of Dan have ripped the heart out of the team, Hugill needs to realise he is playing football not rugby a terrible player. Fosu needs to be shown videos on how to pass a ball, without trying to hold it for ten minutes. What annoys me is that before we looked like we worked hard, pressed high and had passion and fight, under taylor we look like an aging pub team.

[MillersTime]

MOTM the weather

Ollie please be ready after the international break.

Someone please apply the magic sponge to Hall or Morrison, miracle sponge I should say.

Someone please discover some super new treatment method to get Wiles back for the run in.

Please no new injuries over the international break.

Please, please, please.

Others showing grit and picking up big results like Huddersfield today.

2 weeks to switch off from it all, unless we have to play it midweek (we won't, will we?)

[crashbang]

Could have sworn I saw my grandson doing the lucky rain dance.

[sawmiller]

Strategically brilliant by us

Lead everyone to think we look like 11 men who never met before, scuttling aimlessly around like something in a farmyard with its head cut off - when in fact we were performing an ancient ritual rain dance and it worked to perfection

[pip_y]

Things may have changed after Lindsay came on but up till then we never looked like scoring. Great result for us apart from Danny Ward scoring!

[MillersTime]

Hudderfield made the right decision they brought in experience that can motivate the players to achieve more than they should be able to. I know Taylor was a long term recruitment, but the first job is to stay up. Taylor needs to really buck up his ideas, because that team were not up for that game, peltier is a liability, he has been all season but MT loves him and wants to give him a new contract, I hope the board are smart enough not to let that happen. The loss of rathbone, wiles and the sale of Dan have ripped the heart out of the team, Hugill needs to realise he is playing football not rugby a terrible player. Fosu needs to be shown videos on how to pass a ball, without trying to hold it for ten minutes. What annoys me is that before we looked like we worked hard, pressed high and had passion and fight, under taylor we look like an aging pub team.

Peltier really poor today but over the season he has been excellent at right back. By and large.

Not MTs fault he has lost his entire midfield since joining. Any manager at any club would find that incredibly difficult to deal with. You're asking people to play beyond what they are (Odoffin etc), and they can't. Because they are who they are.

Hugill does need to stop some of the desire to fight needlessly, but at least he has some grit. He desperately needs support and something to actually work off. He gets naff all.

Stuck between a rock and a hard place at the minute, we haven't got a midfield. He isn't perfect but comparing him to other teams who are struggling because morale is low isn't fair. Morale isn't great but it isn't our main issue, he can't magically make players better than what they are. Fundamentally.

[Derbymiller]

Peltier really poor today but over the season he has been excellent at right back. By and large.

Not MTs fault he has lost his entire midfield since joining. Any manager at any club would find that incredibly difficult to deal with. You're asking people to play beyond what they are (Odoffin etc), and they can't. Because they are who they are.

Hugill does need to stop some of the desire to fight needlessly, but at least he has some grit. He desperately needs support and something to actually work off. He gets naff all.

Stuck between a rock and a hard place at the minute, we haven't got a midfield. He isn't perfect but comparing him to other teams who are struggling because morale is low isn't fair. Morale isn't great but it isn't our main issue, he can't magically make players better than what they are. Fundamentally.

We will have to disagree about peltier, I don't see it at all, an aging CB that is pushed out to FB, doesn't have the pace, out of position so many times, not a leader on the pitch, never see him motivating and getting the team going. But we all have differing opinions. you sound like Taylor, he plays the players aren't good enough card, let me remind you he brought in 8 players in this squad, you are letting him off lightly

[MillersTime]

We will have to disagree about peltier, I don't see it at all, an aging CB that is pushed out to FB, doesn't have the pace, out of position so many times, not a leader on the pitch, never see him motivating and getting the team going. But we all have differing opinions. you sound like Taylor, he plays the players aren't good enough card, let me remind you he brought in 8 players in this squad, you are letting him off lightly

Agree to disagree is most apt, on this occasion. When playing alongside an established and steady CB he has been more than steady himself, IMO. I don't rate Bailey Wright, he makes life difficult for anyone playing alongside him. Doesn't excuse Peltier for the first half, he was crap. When alongside Hall and Morrison though, I think he has been good. You don't, is what it is. How often do we see anyone motivating through a screen though? We can't have a real grasp on whether he does or not, others that go week in and week out may see more, if there is anything to see. We don't know how much of a leader he is.

Hugill - Good enough but crap service
Morrison - Injured. Looked a great signing.
Hjelde - Good signing. Has his moments but that's his age.
Wright - Last minute signing to help out in a crisis. Don't rate though, whatever the reason he signed.
Blackett - Looks accomplished to me, will get better with game time.
Fosu - Has shown glimpses but is frustrating in other aspects. Still a quality player for our club. Want more though.
Coventry - 5/10. Serviceable when alongside better players. Found out when asked to do more than he is capable of.
Quina - Injured. No idea what we have.

If we had Ollie, Wiles and one of Hall or Morrison we would be well clear. Injuries have crippled our core. The others (Wright, Lindsay, Odoffin) aren't good enough, on a consistent basis. And we don't have a left wing presence really, Fergie looks about 45 when playing sometimes, like today.

I don't like some of the things MT does. Subs when losing and the bench to name a couple, but I won't criticise him for injuries and how they are derailing us. He is working with great limitations right now, and it is a huge shame.

[Derbymiller]

Agree to disagree is most apt, on this occasion. When playing alongside an established and steady CB he has been more than steady himself, IMO. I don't rate Bailey Wright, he makes life difficult for anyone playing alongside him. Doesn't excuse Peltier for the first half, he was crap. When alongside Hall and Morrison though, I think he has been good. You don't, is what it is. How often do we see anyone motivating through a screen though? We can't have a real grasp on whether he does or not, others that go week in and week out may see more, if there is anything to see. We don't know how much of a leader he is.

Hugill - Good enough but crap service
Morrison - Injured. Looked a great signing.
Hjelde - Good signing. Has his moments but that's his age.
Wright - Last minute signing to help out in a crisis. Don't rate though, whatever the reason he signed.
Blackett - Looks accomplished to me, will get better with game time.
Fosu - Has shown glimpses but is frustrating in other aspects. Still a quality player for our club. Want more though.
Coventry - 5/10. Serviceable when alongside better players. Found out when asked to do more than he is capable of.
Quina - Injured. No idea what we have.

If we had Ollie, Wiles and one of Hall or Morrison we would be well clear. Injuries have crippled our core. The others (Wright, Lindsay, Odoffin) aren't good enough, on a consistent basis. And we don't have a left wing presence really, Fergie looks about 45 when playing sometimes, like today.

I don't like some of the things MT does. Subs when losing and the bench to name a couple, but I won't criticise him for injuries and how they are derailing us. He is working with great limitations right now, and it is a huge shame.

Some good points there, but other teams have also lost key players to injury, but i think the loss of Morrison and hall have really hurt us