Cows, this cannot be the new norm surely

[kritichris]

Go back to your corner outwood, we'll let you know when you can come out again.

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“Funnily enough I bought a pig from the butchers last week. They used to cost me around £120. Now the're £230. Reason he said was the Chinese are buying all the pigs up. Not sure if that's the case but it is what he said.”

It’s subsidised state farming that’s what. They get a whopping great Government grunt.

I know little to nothing about pig exports to China - Outwood, so found "Pig World", all about porkers.


Pork export recovery continues but China volumes down

https://www.pig-world.co.uk/news/por...umes-down.html

what was the KG of yours ?


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.... Uk farming never recovered after the Foot and Mouth / Neil Ferguson contiguous cull of the countries livestock....then Defra controlled the show, farmers that survived lost the will to continue, as moving cows from field to field meant reams of paperwork - not a problem for big industrial farmers that dont respect the life of the animal...shed em and stuff em etc.

[army88]

So last night I went to my sister in laws farm over near Skipton.

Absolutely blown away. The cows stay INSIDE %100 of the time. They never venture into fields etc. Inside they have areas to roam and sleep and an Automatic milking system. When the cows get hungry they go eat the food pellets (chemically enriched) and at the same time are automatically milked.

The farmers life will be a lot easier but it just seems wrong to me. It was actually quite sad to see.

Interesting facts for you UG , the cows aren’t outside anymore because they can produce milk , eat be happy milk themselves on robots and do this a few times a day instead of just twice - they have 8 hours off to sleep ( supermarket welfare rules ).
The comfy beds are.because cows only produce milk laid down

I design the lighting at 465nm blue wavelength for them to suppress melatonin , this keeps them producing milk and makes them frisky more calf’s.

Much more efficient as before it was dawn and dusk carrying litres and litres of milk around for hours.

Simples.

Which farm UG

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Interesting facts for you UG , the cows aren’t outside anymore because they can produce milk , eat be happy milk themselves on robots and do this a few times a day instead of just twice - they have 8 hours off to sleep ( supermarket welfare rules ).
The comfy beds are.because cows only produce milk laid down

I design the lighting at 465nm blue wavelength for them to suppress melatonin , this keeps them producing milk and makes them frisky more calf’s.

Much more efficient as before it was dawn and dusk carrying litres and litres of milk around for hours.

Simples.

Which farm UG

Yes, my sister in law works as an area manager visiting farms & doing recordings. She specialises in monitoring the cows output and getting the maximum for the farmers. That's what I understand about it anyway and she is all for it. Plus its made her farming side if the job a lot easier now. I suppose less dangerous too as she's had quite a few broken legs!

The farm is in gargrave. I think it is the only one there to use this system, do you know it? I am pretty sure its only been installed over the last year or 2.

I did say it must be heaven for the farmers but so sad that we seem to be going away from nature in almost everything we do.

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I know little to nothing about pig exports to China - Outwood, so found "Pig World", all about porkers.


Pork export recovery continues but China volumes down

https://www.pig-world.co.uk/news/por...umes-down.html

what was the KG of yours ?


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.... Uk farming never recovered after the Foot and Mouth / Neil Ferguson contiguous cull of the countries livestock....then Defra controlled the show, farmers that survived lost the will to continue, as moving cows from field to field meant reams of paperwork - not a problem for big industrial farmers that dont respect the life of the animal...shed em and stuff em etc.

Well I used to order by size but I just order 'a pig" now as they wont do the smaller pigs, or they will but at the same price. They come in any where between 60-75kg.

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It's actually called Winterburn Army, Just outside Gargrave

[Norder]

Well I used to order by size but I just order 'a pig" now as they wont do the smaller pigs, or they will but at the same price. They come in any where between 60-75kg.

going by current "Pig World" pricing......Outwood

https://www.pig-world.co.uk/news/wee...ig-prices.html


75kg (211.41p/kg) works out at about £180, guess thats from market - add the Butchers cut etc.

just looked at Tesco prices - charging between £6-7kg for their fancy bacon slices...so your pig would have cost you round of £550 - you did good !

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going by current "Pig World" pricing......Outwood

https://www.pig-world.co.uk/news/wee...ig-prices.html


75kg (211.41p/kg) works out at about £180, guess thats from market - add the Butchers cut etc.

just looked at Tesco prices - charging between £6-7kg for their fancy bacon slices...so your pig would have cost you round of £550 - you did good !

Well for a 50kg pig it works out around £4 a kilo now. I used to pay £2.20 not too long ago. In fact Taylors at bamba bridge was even cheaper.

My butcher says they come in at £210 and he chucks £20 on top for storing it for us. We get around 140 a year so the increase has had quite an effect

[army88]

Yes, my sister in law works as an area manager visiting farms & doing recordings. She specialises in monitoring the cows output and getting the maximum for the farmers. That's what I understand about it anyway and she is all for it. Plus its made her farming side if the job a lot easier now. I suppose less dangerous too as she's had quite a few broken legs!

The farm is in gargrave. I think it is the only one there to use this system, do you know it? I am pretty sure its only been installed over the last year or 2.

I did say it must be heaven for the farmers but so sad that we seem to be going away from nature in almost everything we do.

Is it Dodgsons ?

[Norder]

Well for a 50kg pig it works out around £4 a kilo now. I used to pay £2.20 not too long ago. In fact Taylors at bamba bridge was even cheaper.

My butcher says they come in at £210 and he chucks £20 on top for storing it for us. We get around 140 a year so the increase has had quite an effect

Bamber Bridge.....loved hearing that as a youngster, gave me a magical feeling, off to another world....this is all another world for me - UGs, haven't eaten meat since my late t'eens, some time ago, but not the stone age.