RAF Scampton

[Andy_Faber]

Nimby's rule OK!

Exactly

[swaledale]

Turning RAF Scampton into a immigrant camp is an absolute disgrace and a disservice to the members of 617 Squadron that gave their lives for this country during WW2. Guy Gibson and the rest of the heroes of the Dambusters raid would be wondering what they were fighting for?

The base should be preserved as a monument for the bravery of the men that gave their lives for this country . N1gger would be turning in his grave, as would the crews of the Dambusters Raid that gave their lives for this country.

I feel sorry for the immigrants but why do we have to home them in such historical sites?

Why can't the bloody French house them?

This country is a soft touch and a bloody disgrace toward the British people.

Many will not agree with my views but I say what I think and believe

My family fought for this country during WW2 and I know what they would be thinking if they were here today

Rant over

Really not sure what your talking about here, perhaps time to take your pills dear?

[Andy_Faber]

Really not sure what your talking about here, perhaps time to take your pills dear?

I don’t think you’ve quite read the room, sarcasm is out of fashion, try again and be constructive/grown up

[Oldtimeram]

👍

[swaledale]

I don’t think you’ve quite read the room, sarcasm is out of fashion, try again and be constructive/grown up

Comments which border on lunacy, are racist, xenophobic and utterly stupid don't deserve a grown up response!

[Geoff Parkstone]

Comments which border on lunacy, are racist, xenophobic and utterly stupid don't deserve a grown up response!

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".

SG Tallentyre aka Evelyn Hall pp Voltaire

[ramAnag]

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".

SG Tallentyre aka Evelyn Hall pp Voltaire

Works both ways though, Mr. P and thus gets us nowhere.
Personally I thought your comment about sinking boats was the most tasteless and offensive of the lot, but then you’d probably say you were just joking or, in AF speak, ‘just joshing rA’ (again!).
Either way I fear we’re getting into dangerous territory...Swale has taken OTR at his - ‘I say it as I see it’ - word and replied in the same vein, while AF seems to be implying that allowances need to be made...possibly because OTR would appear to be the forum’s ‘senior’ contributor.
The first a tad ruthless...the second, rather patronising...perhaps.
I guess that ultimately it’s a case of, ‘if you live by the sword, you’ll die by the sword’.

P.S. Possibly something to be discussed elsewhere...I wonder how much you actually stand by your ‘I may disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it’ philosophy. Seems to be one of your favourites but it doesn’t actually stand much scrutiny imo.

[Andy_Faber]

AF seems to be implying that allowances need to be made...possibly because OTR would appear to be the forum’s ‘senior’ contributor.
.

Not at all. OTR makes what I’d call an impassioned statement (or series of) from what appears to be a more ‘connected’ POV than the rest of us. He expresses empathy for the people dragged into this and appears to be more concerned at the lack of respect afforded what he considers a sacred place. He asks a valid question relating to the route into U.K. and responsibility of other countries. He also suggests that those who served there might be (my words) a bit confused about the U.K. they came across if they were somehow reincarnated in Scampton post it’s proposed re use. I’m aware of many including a much younger (than me) guy I work with (ex forces) who believe similar so I didn’t think age was relevant to OTR’s comments.

Edit: ‘take your pills dear’ is crudely disguised ageism, do you agree?

[ramAnag]

Not at all. OTR makes what I’d call an impassioned statement (or series of) from what appears to be a more ‘connected’ POV than the rest of us. He expresses empathy for the people dragged into this and appears to be more concerned at the lack of respect afforded what he considers a sacred place. He asks a valid question relating to the route into U.K. and responsibility of other countries. He also suggests that those who served there might be (my words) a bit confused about the U.K. they came across if they were somehow reincarnated in Scampton post it’s proposed re use. I’m aware of many including a much younger (than me) guy I work with (ex forces) who believe similar so I didn’t think age was relevant to OTR’s comments.

Edit: ‘take your pills dear’ is crudely disguised ageism, do you agree?

Yes, I think it is. Equally I’d question your ‘I don’t think you’ve quite read the room’ quip and wonder why you didn’t pick up on GP’s ‘sink the boats’ comment so quickly or indeed...at all?
As regards OTR...I may have been kinder than Swale, but I repeat, isn’t it a case of living and dying by the sword or, if you prefer, ‘if you can’t stand the heat...’

[Andy_Faber]

Yes, I think it is. Equally I’d question your ‘I don’t think you’ve quite read the room’ quip and wonder why you didn’t pick up on GP’s ‘sink the boats’ comment so quickly or indeed...at all?
..’

GP’s questionable comment wasnt aimed at a fellow forum member and wasn’t one of a multiple similar posts posted on a number of threads at roughly the same time