RAF Scampton

[ramAnag]

GP’s questionable comment wasnt aimed at a fellow forum member and wasn’t one of a multiple similar posts posted on a number of threads at roughly the same time

Self evidently what you’ve said about GP’s comment is true...though I’m not sure what your point is.

‘...wasn’t one of a multiple similar posts posted on a number of threads at roughly the same time’. Sorry, AF, I’m really not sure what that even means, who you’re talking about or, again, what your point is.

[swaledale]

Not at all. OTR makes what I’d call an impassioned statement (or series of) from what appears to be a more ‘connected’ POV than the rest of us. He expresses empathy for the people dragged into this and appears to be more concerned at the lack of respect afforded what he considers a sacred place. He asks a valid question relating to the route into U.K. and responsibility of other countries. He also suggests that those who served there might be (my words) a bit confused about the U.K. they came across if they were somehow reincarnated in Scampton post it’s proposed re use. I’m aware of many including a much younger (than me) guy I work with (ex forces) who believe similar so I didn’t think age was relevant to OTR’s comments.

Edit: ‘take your pills dear’ is crudely disguised ageism, do you agree?

Get it right! It was completely obviously a discriminatory comment against somebody who is displaying all the signs of a mental illness!

I any case it was an ill informed rant by somebody who is alleging that those brave souls who fought in the last war, against a regime that was actively targeting migrants and people deemed as foreigners would be somehow upset that a redundant military accommodation was being used to house people fleeing from war and threats of violence.

I rather think they would approve of some use being made of outdated unwanted facilities to provide housing for refugees!

He also deliberately used the name of Gibson's dog to as an ill disguised racist attack on the refugees. it is accepted that 60 plus years ago social attitudes were different, but we have moved on, though clearly there are many who seem unable to do that and thats sad.

But if they are entitled to have a rant on this Forum, then I'm entitled to make a sarcastic remark and if that gets up your nose Pops, well so be it!

[swaledale]

Self evidently what you’ve said about GP’s comment is true...though I’m not sure what your point is.

‘...wasn’t one of a multiple similar posts posted on a number of threads at roughly the same time’. Sorry, AF, I’m really not sure what that even means, who you’re talking about or, again, what your point is.

I'm afraid AF frequently fails to make his point clear, but whatever he is burbling on about, lets be clear, I've not called anyone names, sworn at anyone, I've responded to what for me was an ill judged, ignorant and offensive rant with simple sarcasm.

If AF or anybody else is offended by that then tough in my view.

[swaledale]

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".

SG Tallentyre aka Evelyn Hall pp Voltaire

Where did I say he couldn't post it? If you talk *******s expect a sarcastic response!

[macstheman]

I personally find the use of the term 'pops' offensive!

[Ramshank72]

All is not lost OTR, plans to preserve its heritage whilst redeveloping and regenerating are still going ahead...
https://www.forces.net/services/raf/...p-raf-scampton

[Oldtimeram]

Let's hope sense will prevail. This site is totally unsuitable for housing these immigrants

[Oldtimeram]

I'll ignore some of the personal insults toward my mental state. I am perfectly sane and compos mentis thank you.

[macstheman]

Worry not OTR, personal insults only diminish ones argument!

[ramAnag]

All is not lost OTR, plans to preserve its heritage whilst redeveloping and regenerating are still going ahead...
https://www.forces.net/services/raf/...p-raf-scampton

If that’s the case...all well and good. Let those for whom such preservation and possible development of this site is important ‘put their money where their mouth is’ and get on with it. I don’t think anyone has suggested otherwise.

Let’s not however confuse this desire, however laudable it may be, with any unnecessarily insensitive comments aimed at asylum seekers/refugees, ill founded and frankly unthinking criticism of the French and repeatedly contrived usage of a word which has a long history of being insulting and disparaging towards black people.

There are two sides to all fall outs.