Partick

[swanny14]

Are we still firmly in the squad experimentation stage?

While i didnt see the game.....

Walton,
Grimshaw, Denham, Graham, Duffy
Cujoe, Sibbald, Docherty, Middleton,
Thomson, Watt.

Not seeing this one either!

Sensible selection. Get away from the 433 ****e.

[TerryTheTerror]

Grimshaw to RB is an absolute must if we're persevering with some of the sh*te from yesterday. I don't actually know why we signed him if we're going to play 433 and use him in midfield.

Maybe he wants to play midfield and I wonder what he's been told prior to signing. 🤔 But yeah, we need to be better in the full back areas, for sure.

I don't know why managers these days see full backs as the main attacking option in a team. It's a weird one but I guess they know better than I.

[arab777]

Maybe he wants to play midfield and I wonder what he's been told prior to signing. �� But yeah, we need to be better in the full back areas, for sure.

I don't know why managers these days see full backs as the main attacking option in a team. It's a weird one but I guess they know better than I.

It is can be very effective if you have the right personnel and system in place. What Liverpool do is when the 2 dynamic full backs bomb forward the defensive midfielders will plug the gap. The pay back is the attacking threat and crosses being fired in the box, which also pegs back the opposing team.

On Saturday we didn't do any of that. All that happened was our full backs being caught in no mans land neither an attacking threat or covering defence. Spartans played 2 up front in the first half and exploited well the 2 on 2's with the central defenders.

With nearly half a team of new players, early season rustiness it could take a bit of time for the players to fully understand what their roles are in the way JG wants them to play. The other explanation doesn't bear thinking about - they are just not good enough. I think it is probably somewhere in between.

[Arabdownsouth]

Maybe he wants to play midfield and I wonder what he's been told prior to signing. �� But yeah, we need to be better in the full back areas, for sure.

I don't know why managers these days see full backs as the main attacking option in a team. It's a weird one but I guess they know better than I.

Never mind what he was told, you do the job your employer gives you within the grounds of reason. He played rb last season so he can bloody well do it this season if required.

[JUSTaway]

Maybe he wants to play midfield and I wonder what he's been told prior to signing. �� But yeah, we need to be better in the full back areas, for sure.

I don't know why managers these days see full backs as the main attacking option in a team. It's a weird one but I guess they know better than I.

Someone said to me before the match Grimashaw wanted to play midfield, like you I'm wondering if true we agreed to that in desperation with the acknowledgment he could cover elsewhere if required, all speculation on my part. Would be far better at right back. We also need to know what is happening with Behich, how can it take that long for a decision to be made? If as expected he is moving on, and Goodwin doesn't rate Flynn Duffy, then we are toiling at left back, McMann should be squad cover and no more.

I think Goodwin decided to start what he feels was his first eleven on Saturday, why else would you start with two defensive mids against Spartans.

I'm still hopeful we will get quite a few players in late, Spartans on their day could probably beat most teams in our league due to the lack of quality, Killie and Dundee got up despite being stinking past couple of seasons due to lack of an outstanding team in the championship, that is prob our best hope too at the moment, if someone manages to string a good season together we could be struggling again, I'm not not in total panic mode yet, as feel this cup comes too early and is almost pre-season, first game v Arbroath the important one, unfortunately a few more bad results in cup which is very possible, will heap pressure and negativity. As someone else mentioned, it does have a bit of a Ray McKinnon, Laslo period feel about it.

[JUSTaway]

we're also doomed if we are relying on Tony Watt to be our main man and score goals.

[tHeArAb]

Maybe he wants to play midfield and I wonder what he's been told prior to signing. 🤔 But yeah, we need to be better in the full back areas, for sure.

I don't know why managers these days see full backs as the main attacking option in a team. It's a weird one but I guess they know better than I.

He does, and he was told that, but as a three doesn't exactly make sense when he's a wide player.

[tHeArAb]

It is can be very effective if you have the right personnel and system in place.

Which we don't and probably never will have. We all know it works for teams like Liverpool, but Liverpool we most definitely are not.

[arab777]

Which we don't and probably never will have. We all know it works for teams like Liverpool, but Liverpool we most definitely are not.

Indeed. It is all relative though. While we are most certainly not Liverpool, neither are our opponents Man City, Arsenal or Man Utd. Its a system that can work at any level of the game if the personnel at that level can do it and the players know how to play it.

Tam Courts had a system that worked quite well. It was very simple be very hard to score against. It is also incredibly boring to watch. We actually scored more league goals last season finishing bottom than we did finishing 4th the season before.

I'm glad JG intends to try to be more offensive and expansive. The jury is out though on whether it can be delivered. I have my worries but Saturday was too early to tell.

[Arabdownsouth]

Indeed. It is all relative though. While we are most certainly not Liverpool, neither are our opponents Man City, Arsenal or Man Utd. Its a system that can work at any level of the game if the personnel at that level can do it and the players know how to play it.

Tam Courts had a system that worked quite well. It was very simple be very hard to score against. It is also incredibly boring to watch. We actually scored more league goals last season finishing bottom than we did finishing 4th the season before.

I'm glad JG intends to try to be more offensive and expansive. The jury is out though on whether it can be delivered. I have my worries but Saturday was too early to tell.

I'd rather bore our way out of this division than deliver free flowing football against Arbroath again the following season.