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Thread: Nett zero gets cast to the winds!

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    Nett zero gets cast to the winds!

    What did I say a couple of weeks ago about petrol and diesel carsÖ..there was no way they could put the infrastructure in place by 2030 to cope with the ending of combustion engine production and the end of hybrids by 2035.

    Isnít it funny how us ďordinary peopleĒ can see what these idiots canít and many years in advance.

    Iíve actually just had my new hybrid X5 and Iím quite disappointed, itís not as nice to drive as the one it replaced, it feels heavier, less drivable and the regen system on the braking is hideously intrusive compared to my last X5 hybrid.

    Iím honestly thinking of ditching it after a week and replacing it with an all petrol model just to get some driving pleasure back.

    Sunak throwing nett zero to the bin in the hunt for short term voter gain FFSÖÖthe man has the stature of a gnat compared to Thatcher and Blair.

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    What Iíd also meant to add was, if this is the best they can do with electric cars then Iíd say itís going to be soul destroying driving for future generations.

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    Try a Tesla mate
    Just got a Model3 itís amazing, so much fun to drive and just crazy fast with a low centre of gravity do you can just chuck it into bends and the power is instant

    Drove back yesterday from Solihull mainly on autopilot was very relaxing in the traffic and stop n starts

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaggieSingh View Post
    Try a Tesla mate
    Just got a Model3 itís amazing, so much fun to drive and just crazy fast with a low centre of gravity do you can just chuck it into bends and the power is instant

    Drove back yesterday from Solihull mainly on autopilot was very relaxing in the traffic and stop n starts
    Only drive one for a few days but as you say they are a very good to drive and they work as a car, on a long run the autopilot feature is a blessing as it works very well. Also the Tesla charging points are brilliant and the car will book you in to one if you are on a long motorway run, takes that range / charge anxiety out of the equation. Downside is the cost tho, out of the reach of most people..
    I did find the seat a bit hard.

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    I would like these politicians to explain to me how people are going to be able to afford an electric car when people struggle with energy bills, mortgages and the like.
    The same with heat pumps and getting rid of gas boilers, fanciful ideas, never happen in our lifetime, we canít get fibre broadband let alone renewing the pipe network for hydrogen

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    The costs are just plain stupid Bomber and batteries degenerate over time so if you buy an older one second hand you may need to fork out a fortune to replace it, this isnít being talked about enough.

    I only buy electric for two reasons,

    1/ To improve air quality for the younger generation,

    2/ Because is convenient being able to top up with 60 miles of electric range from home and not have to stop for petrol constantly.

    Thatís itÖ.no other reasons whatever!

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    Iíve no problem with going electric, weíll all be driving them at sometime in the future, itís the fanciful ideas of politicians that think itís going to happen sooner than later without considering the cost to a already cash strapped nation, I know people that wouldnít dream of paying more than £10k for a car, how will they cope with a second hand motor with the possibility of high repair builds, these politicians need to give their heads a shake and get real

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    There's a school of thought now that electric vehicles due to their weight are causing environmental problems due to heavier breaking forces and tyre usage. China was about to flood the market with cheaper vehicles fitted with lighter batteries, the powers that be don't want the Chinese having so much impact on the economy plus it threatens Tesla's dominance of the market.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by westcountryvillain View Post
    There's a school of thought now that electric vehicles due to their weight are causing environmental problems due to heavier breaking forces and tyre usage. China was about to flood the market with cheaper vehicles fitted with lighter batteries, the powers that be don't want the Chinese having so much impact on the economy plus it threatens Tesla's dominance of the market.....
    Isn't there also some concern regarding their weight on older multi-storey car parks? Many of these were constructed in the late 60s and 70s when most vehicles were considerably smaller and lighter than modern cars. May be a myth but surely, at the time, these car parks were designed to bear the weight of x amount of cars at y average weight. Don't expect that the current small percentage of electric vehicles using them makes much odds, but if all cars that use them become heavier electric ones?

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    Do electric vehicles still deposit brake dust? Yep.

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