Reply With QuoteHuge numbers of pubs in our area have closed and are now housing and apartments, places I’ve known all my life.
No new ones at all.
Mind you, the West Mids isn’t exactly affluent like the area you seem to be mentioning.
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As part of Heritage Week we visited lots of castles, houses, museums and gardens all free and some of them open only for this. Really enjoyed it.
Went to some towns in the county I haven't visited for a few years. What struck me was how vibrant and prosperous the small market towns appeared to be. Places we ate in were busy.Stopped overnight in Lewes,had a nice meal and noticed how many new bars and restaurants and of course coffee shops there were.
This somewhat contrasted with headlines all over this week's news 'Record number of pubs close this year'
So I went looking for evidence to support what I had seen. It took an a lot of finding as what I mostly got back was pub opening hours but I eventually found
'there are more pubs open now than pre-Covid'
'new pub openings outweigh pub closures'
'in 2022 there was a record number of new pub openings'
Why is it the media (and a few posters on here) love nothing more than a bit of doom and gloom but give them a good news story!
Cheers.
See the Albion are losing now that is an ongoing bad news story
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Huge numbers of pubs in our area have closed and are now housing and apartments, places I’ve known all my life.
No new ones at all.
Mind you, the West Mids isn’t exactly affluent like the area you seem to be mentioning.
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Originally Posted by mickd1961
Lots of pubs closed around Harrogate and it’s very affluent as you know. More posh coffee shops have opened though. Since Covid nightclubs have been hit all over the country and becoming a thing of the past!
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Was in Stourport a couple of weeks back, it’s starting to come back to how it was when I was younger, 2 new bars in the high street and lots of live music.
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Were the Hollies there?
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This negativity is exactly what I am eluding to. I googled 'new pubs in Harrogate' and quickly found these recents posts.
Nestled on the outskirts of the beautiful town of Harrogate, you'll find your new local pub; The Curious Cow of Harrogate.
Harrogate's most opulent new bar will be part of famous hotel's grand reopening
New bar to openon Harrogate's Old Bath Road
Three new restaurants and bars are set to open in Harrogate town centre within the next few days.Roland’s Bar, Samsons brasserie and The Giggling Squid restaurant are all set to add to Harrogate’s already-extensive hospitality scene.
Harrogate Pub Crawl - 6 of Harrogate's new bars! What is best in Harrogate? Best pub in Harrogate?
So why all the doom and gloom? Rell me I want to know
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Suspect you're right about Night Clubs but is that about lack of money or change of culture?
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There are obviously deprived areas that are struggling but it can't just be Suss ex that is thriving the numbers are nationwide.
The real point I'm making is why is it the fact that record numbers of pubs have been closing is an easy headline to find. Both on national and local news. It was only because I went to a few towns I haven't visited for a while I noticed how many new venues there were that I googled 'how many new pubs' and I too was shocked to see headlines such 'record number of new pubs opening'
Why do we love to wallow in negativity that is in danger of becoming self perpetuating? I just don't get it.
It's a bit like the HS2 arguement where all we kept hearing was 'all that money just to save 10 minutes' when the truth is it's about capacity. Who knew?
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Restaurants yes and more coffee houses and a lovely tap bar being a bolt on to an established brewery. The curious cow thought is new but there was a pub before. Harrogate will always do well though as there’s lots of money and properties still selling quickly.
Get your point though in general.
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My home town Harrogate is vibrant 923.
But you’re talking about one of the top 10 towns to live in in the U.K. and often voted the top place to live.
If you look at Stourbridge where I have lived most of my life I’m not saying you won’t hear of any new establishments opening but…….the pubs that were there all of my life and for 50 to 100 years have gone.
On just the Hagley Rd into Stourbridge we’ve lost,
The Prince Of Wales,
One I can’t remember the name of,
The Swan,
The Old Swan.
This is in a straight line of 1.5 miles.
Within another half mile we’ve lost The Labour In Vain and The Pedmore House which was a huge landmark.
A quarter of a mile in another direction we’ve lost The Star And Garter and the historic place I had my wedding reception, The Stewpony.
The odd new place pops up and then closes within 2 or 3 years.
What we are losing locally are major local pubs of great history and replacing them with occasional shops etc turned into wine bars that fail and go t I t s up.
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Aren’t they either dead or retired?
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