Suella Braverman.

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They had their chance of a 2 state solution.

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And he should be in jail!

[Omegstrat6]

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And he should be in jail!

I think the unsavoury truth of the matter is that resolutions and, perhaps, ultimately peace can only be achieved by engaging in dialogue with your enemies and this doesn't matter whether it is one country prepared to negotiate with another they have been openly at war with or a government prepared to enter into dialogue with terrorists. This is just part of realpolitik.

Like it or not, the reality is that terrorists groups don't achieve levels of support out of nowhere and there are normally some levels of injustice that have led to them flourishing and being seen as "freedom fighters" by some, regardless of their heinous tactics and increasing disregard for innocent lives. Making bold statements like "we do not negotiate with terrorists" may look strong and play to the world stage but-unless you can realistically destroy them (normally exceptionally difficult as they are usually so inter-woven into the fabric of a community)-it will only get you so far. Northern Ireland is a case in point. Were the IRA, for example, terrorists? Certainly. Did the Roman Catholic population have genuine grievances? Yes. Was engaging in talks with terrorists or former terrorists the only realistic way to progress peace ? I would argue, yes.

In respect of trying to engage in dialogue with them then, I believe Corbyn was right to do the highly unpopular. However, having the idiocy or tone deafness to actually call them "friends" is beyond the pale. He also got it badly wrong in his reading of both Hamas and Hezbollah in that they may purport to represent the Muslim population in the region and be fighting for their "freedom" but, in fact, they only represent a minority of that population and their hateful Islamic extremism works as much towards the repression of their freedoms as it does towards the eradication of their sworn enemies.

[albion68]

If or when it kicks off on Saturday, then she should take some responsibility for whipping up this divisive rhetoric. It reminds me a bit of Trump during the Capital riots.

I'm just so fed up of these disastrous career politicians. Who says what they do to appease people, that she thinks will enable her to get the top job.

The Tories will most likely get slaughtered at the next election, which will open up a position at the top of the party. All she has to do is get the media onside and here we go...

More populist, divisive nonsense from her. From a populist, divisive party who have trashed the country in the last 13 years. And she'll probably be the next leader of them.

I know I’m a bit late coming to the party…but if any body thought that Braverman comments helped whip up the Remembrance Day outrage.. are living in cloud cuckoo land..if she had kept her mouth shut there would have been trouble these marches are just what the far right relish.

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I think the unsavoury truth of the matter is that resolutions and, perhaps, ultimately peace can only be achieved by engaging in dialogue with your enemies and this doesn't matter whether it is one country prepared to negotiate with another they have been openly at war with or a government prepared to enter into dialogue with terrorists. This is just part of realpolitik.

Like it or not, the reality is that terrorists groups don't achieve levels of support out of nowhere and there are normally some levels of injustice that have led to them flourishing and being seen as "freedom fighters" by some, regardless of their heinous tactics and increasing disregard for innocent lives. Making bold statements like "we do not negotiate with terrorists" may look strong and play to the world stage but-unless you can realistically destroy them (normally exceptionally difficult as they are usually so inter-woven into the fabric of a community)-it will only get you so far. Northern Ireland is a case in point. Were the IRA, for example, terrorists? Certainly. Did the Roman Catholic population have genuine grievances? Yes. Was engaging in talks with terrorists or former terrorists the only realistic way to progress peace ? I would argue, yes.

In respect of trying to engage in dialogue with them then, I believe Corbyn was right to do the highly unpopular. However, having the idiocy or tone deafness to actually call them "friends" is beyond the pale. He also got it badly wrong in his reading of both Hamas and Hezbollah in that they may purport to represent the Muslim population in the region and be fighting for their "freedom" but, in fact, they only represent a minority of that population and their hateful Islamic extremism works as much towards the repression of their freedoms as it does towards the eradication of their sworn enemies.

Your last sentence is so true.

[Leicesterbaggie]

I know I’m a bit late coming to the party…but if any body thought that Braverman comments helped whip up the Remembrance Day outrage.. are living in cloud cuckoo land..if she had kept her mouth shut there would have been trouble these marches are just what the far right relish.

Totally correct!

[soulman101]

suella Braveman's letter https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...ation-failings

[Lindenbaggie]

Totally correct!

Which far right groups were identified on Saturday?

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Which far right groups were identified on Saturday?

Reference to Tommy Robinson and his merry band.