O/T Farmers

[CAMiller]

Here you go Frog, some MSM exposure.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-68655661

[frogmiller]

Here you go Frog, some MSM exposure.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-68655661

Cheers CAM.
The MSM exposure will be short lived and is more a benefit for people that aren’t aware of what is happening than to me.

The farmers or the agricultural industry is being blamed for 25% of the reason that net zero can’t be achieved. The daft thing is that all plant life needs CO2.

[KerrAvon]

There has been plenty of 'MSM' coverage if people care to look instead of complaining that there isn't any:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68249099

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...riculture-fair

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...zero-protests/

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68216353

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...rs-riot-police

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-68414032

There's nothing daft about plants needs CO2 to grow, but I don't think anyone is suggesting eliminating it from the atmosphere. That would be as disastrous to the climate as allowing the amount of it in the atmosphere to rapidly increase.

[frogmiller]

There has been plenty of 'MSM' coverage if people care to look instead of complaining that there isn't any:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68249099

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...riculture-fair

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...zero-protests/

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68216353

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...rs-riot-police

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-68414032

There's nothing daft about plants needs CO2 to grow, but I don't think anyone is suggesting eliminating it from the atmosphere. That would be as disastrous to the climate as allowing the amount of it in the atmosphere to rapidly increase.

The thing is Kerr is that it’s not on the evening news, on the radio or on the front pages of the papers then it’s not well known.

All of those links and the stories behind them have been highlighted on this thread over its existence by myself or others.
Other posters were not aware of what was going on.

As CAM kindly indicated to me that there was some news that made the news I would like to thank you in the same way and say cheers.

Nett zero isn’t eliminating CO2 from the atmosphere it is to eliminate the man made CO2 from the atmosphere.
As CO2 stands at 0.4% of the atmosphere and it’s said to be disastrous for plant life if it goes to 0.2% then reducing the tiny percentage of the 0.4% existent could be money wasted.

The Guardian said in a piece that the richest 1% of people produced more CO2 than the poorest 66%.

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...66-report-says

[KerrAvon]

There was coverage on both the evening news and radio in the UK, albeit very limited. The reality is that broadcasters typically have a 30 minute evening news slot and have to make editorial decisions upon which stories to feature. Farmer's protests are nothing new and, with the greatest of respect, pale into insignificance when compared with other things that are going on in in the world at the moment.

Net zero means what it says - net zero CO2 production from human activity.

The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is about 0.041% not 0.4%, but it was only about 0.029% at the start of the industrial revolution. The effects of that change can already be seen and they are accelerating. I don't see addressing that as a waste of money. I don't think our kids will see it that way either.

If course it is the richest people who create the most CO2 - it's the residents of developed countries who drive, fly and 'consume'. The tragedy is that it will be the poorest people in the world who will suffer the most at the outset as countries that are very sensitive to drought, heat waves and tropical storms become increasingly difficult to live in.

[frogmiller]

There was coverage on both the evening news and radio in the UK, albeit very limited. The reality is that broadcasters typically have a 30 minute evening news slot and have to make editorial decisions upon which stories to feature. Farmer's protests are nothing new and, with the greatest of respect, pale into insignificance when compared with other things that are going on in in the world at the moment.

Net zero means what it says - net zero CO2 production from human activity.

The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is about 0.041% not 0.4%, but it was only about 0.029% at the start of the industrial revolution. The effects of that change can already be seen and they are accelerating. I don't see addressing that as a waste of money. I don't think our kids will see it that way either.

If course it is the richest people who create the most CO2 - it's the residents of developed countries who drive, fly and 'consume'. The tragedy is that it will be the poorest people in the world who will suffer the most at the outset as countries that are very sensitive to drought, heat waves and tropical storms become increasingly difficult to live in.

You're right 0.041 which is effecting all of the climate changes. But in the Netherlands it was a Nitrogen problem that made the government there force their farmers into culling livestock and reducing the output by 10%. It was that that started protesting in Europe.

[frogmiller]

You're right 0.041 which is effecting all of the climate changes. But in the Netherlands it was a Nitrogen problem that made the government there force their farmers into culling livestock and reducing the output by 10%. It was that that started protesting in Europe.

But the lessons from banning nitrogen hasn't been learnt. The catastrophic events in the Shri Lanka economy, the starving, the riots and the suffering that has brought a rich exporting economy of a country to its knees and is something that could happen everywhere.

[animallittle3]

There was coverage on both the evening news and radio in the UK, albeit very limited. The reality is that broadcasters typically have a 30 minute evening news slot and have to make editorial decisions upon which stories to feature. Farmer's protests are nothing new and, with the greatest of respect, pale into insignificance when compared with other things that are going on in in the world at the moment.

Net zero means what it says - net zero CO2 production from human activity.

The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is about 0.041% not 0.4%, but it was only about 0.029% at the start of the industrial revolution. The effects of that change can already be seen and they are accelerating. I don't see addressing that as a waste of money. I don't think our kids will see it that way either.

If course it is the richest people who create the most CO2 - it's the residents of developed countries who drive, fly and 'consume'. The tragedy is that it will be the poorest people in the world who will suffer the most at the outset as countries that are very sensitive to drought, heat waves and tropical storms become increasingly difficult to live in.

What's your thoughts on this speech Kerr , my knowledge is limited on this climate change business so I couldn't really form an opinion .


https://youtu.be/Mbdp51O0J6Q?si=lFnRyAD14ycVGHqt

[frogmiller]

What's your thoughts on this speech Kerr , my knowledge is limited on this climate change business so I couldn't really form an opinion .

https://youtu.be/Mbdp51O0J6Q?si=lFnRyAD14ycVGHqt

I did enjoy the video although I have seen it before. He’s clever in that plus other videos with him talking. He talks a lot of sense and is humorous with it.