Election Year or Fear!

[swaledale]

Yet you are doing

And I note no evidence provided on your accusation that I was conducting (in your words) a smear campaign, which is par for the course with you, always a lack of actual evidence to back up the majority of your claims.

Mm I'm not arguing with you, I long ago realised that was pointless, same with Thicky really, neither of you able to see beyond your narrow view of the world, though at least Thicky is openly racist, whereas your the I have a friend/relative/whoever who is an ethnic minority so can't be racist type of a racist!! The one who treads a fine line appearing to be reasonable, whilst actually being the worst of the lot really.

[Andy_Faber]

And I note no evidence provided on your accusation that I was conducting (in your words) a smear campaign, which is par for the course with you, always a lack of actual evidence to back up the majority of your claims.

Mm I'm not arguing with you, I long ago realised that was pointless, same with Thicky really, neither of you able to see beyond your narrow view of the world, though at least Thicky is openly racist, whereas your the I have a friend/relative/whoever who is an ethnic minority so can't be racist type of a racist!! The one who treads a fine line appearing to be reasonable, whilst actually being the worst of the lot really.

And still you are doing

[Trickytreesreds]

Well there you go, a "genuine" working class plonker liking somebody who is to the right of the right of centre - better do some research son, you might want to query those organisations and individual she has accepted donations from, enemies of the people I would say, well people who ahve a clue whats going on that is.

"son"

What a clown you are

[Trickytreesreds]

And I note no evidence provided on your accusation that I was conducting (in your words) a smear campaign, which is par for the course with you, always a lack of actual evidence to back up the majority of your claims.

Mm I'm not arguing with you, I long ago realised that was pointless, same with Thicky really, neither of you able to see beyond your narrow view of the world, though at least Thicky is openly racist, whereas your the I have a friend/relative/whoever who is an ethnic minority so can't be racist type of a racist!! The one who treads a fine line appearing to be reasonable, whilst actually being the worst of the lot really.

I've asked you before for evidence of your racist slurs.
Though, you being the champagne lefty you are, its a pre programmed shut down phrase, you drag out your ass when it suits.

[ramAnag]

Putin wins…who’da thought?!
One down…two to go.

[ramAnag]

Though, you being the champagne lefty you are, it’s a pre programmed shut down phrase, you drag out your ass when it suits.

What does that actually mean? What is a ‘champagne lefty’…and a ‘pre programmed shut down phase’ and how do you ‘drag (it) out your ass when it suits’? Genuine questions.

[Trickytreesreds]

What does that actually mean? What is a ‘champagne lefty’…and a ‘pre programmed shut down phase’ and how do you ‘drag (it) out your ass when it suits’? Genuine questions.

Self explanatory.

Champagne lefty, is someone with socialist espouses leftist views, while enjoying a luxurious lifestyle; One example might include Labour Party supporters who stereotypically live in more affluent areas and consume highbrow media.

Usual broadsides in an attempt to put down someone who doesn't agree with them being, racist/xenophobe/bigot/gammon/little Englander/Nazi

All launched with no evidence, yet designed to attempt to shame the victim into backing down.
Ironically, being very "Nazi" in it's design for dominance.

[Andy_Faber]

What does that actually mean? What is a ‘champagne lefty’…and a ‘pre programmed shut down phase’ and how do you ‘drag (it) out your ass when it suits’? Genuine questions.

As you seem to be asking on behalf of Swale, I'll comment on behalf of TTR

No issue with 'lefty', everyone is entitled to a world-view, but its a bit rich coming from the only person I'm aware of on this forum who (repeatedly) brags off about his wealth

'shutdown' refers to Swale's constant use of the 'conversation shutdown' playbook, use of slurs, insults etc - regretably for Swale its about as effective as Windows Millenium Edition, such behaviour is now in itself being called out for the blunt and lacking in depth instrument that it is

Even I can't quite work out the third sentence, reads like a line out of Jackie Brown

[ramAnag]

As you seem to be asking on behalf of Swale, I'll comment on behalf of TTR

No issue with 'lefty', everyone is entitled to a world-view, but its a bit rich coming from the only person I'm aware of on this forum who (repeatedly) brags off about his wealth

'shutdown' refers to Swale's constant use of the 'conversation shutdown' playbook, use of slurs, insults etc - regretably for Swale its about as effective as Windows Millenium Edition, such behaviour is now in itself being called out for the blunt and lacking in depth instrument that it is

Even I can't quite work out the third sentence, reads like a line out of Jackie Brown

I wasn’t asking ‘on behalf’ of anyone. I just didn’t understand.
I’ve always been puzzled by the expression ‘champagne socialist/lefty’…it’s as if having any sort of left of centre political stance should involve living like one of the old working class from a D.H. Lawrence novel and not doing is somehow betraying your left wing sympathies.

Curiously the best example of such political/lifestyle hypocrisy I can think of is Lee Anderson…started his political life as a Labour councillor…switched to the Tories…started spouting bigoted ‘I want my country back’ nonsense…got ditched by the Tories…joined Reform UK…takes that salary - while having been elected on a different ticket - and while also having enough time left apparently to earn £100,000 from GB News in the last twelve months. Infinitely more hypocritical than having centre left views and being relatively well off I’d have thought.

As for the ‘shutdown’ thing. Is that what it is? If someone takes offence at being called racist isn’t it an invitation to explain yourself further rather than a ‘shutdown’. Is Lee Anderson guilty of racism? I think so…yes. Is Tricky sometimes guilty of racism towards Muslims? In my opinion…again yes. Is that Tory donor, whose name I forget, but who said what he said about Diane Abbott guilty of a particularly stupid example of racism…imo, obviously and dangerously.
That’s not a ‘shutdown’ it’s an invitation to explain themselves further…if they’re capable of it.

Likewise, a bit, with you and your TV presenter thing. I don’t believe you to be overtly racist but I do believe that little obsession of yours to be tinged with a sort of old fashioned racism that one usually finds in people who can't/won’t think things through. I don’t think of you like that so why not talk it through? Why does it matter what colour or creed a TV presenter is?

[ramAnag]

Self explanatory.

Champagne lefty, is someone with socialist espouses leftist views, while enjoying a luxurious lifestyle; One example might include Labour Party supporters who stereotypically live in more affluent areas and consume highbrow media.

Usual broadsides in an attempt to put down someone who doesn't agree with them being, racist/xenophobe/bigot/gammon/little Englander/Nazi

All launched with no evidence, yet designed to attempt to shame the victim into backing down.
Ironically, being very "Nazi" in it's design for dominance.

So…do you believe that Swale enjoys a ‘luxurious lifestyle’…and that all Labour supporters should live in poorer areas and watch/read ‘low brow’ media? That would be odd wouldn’t it? What do you mean by ‘highbrow media’ anyway?

I’ll accept that ‘gammon, little Englander and Nazi’ are generally unhelpful terms, but you, and those others I’ve mentioned, do display racist, xenophobic and bigoted characteristics. Doesn’t seem unreasonable to point that out, imo.