O/T:- Navalny

[tommopie8]

How did Poland get into your post? BFP said Georgia which is not NATO. There are more than a few similarities between Georgia and Ukraine.

They haven't covered that on Joe Rogan yet obviously

[drillerpie]

You're obviously captured by by biased western media hysteria, try and form your own opinions from the evidence available. No he wouldn't go on to the baltic states or Poland because they are part of nato, calling people lunatics doesn't make them so, there's no point trying to have a serious discussion with you it's like arguing with a ten year old. 😉

Sounds like you're admitting he would quite like to though, and NATO is the only thing stopping him.

[Elis]

RIP Alexei https://navalny.eu/

[BigFatPie]

They haven't covered that on Joe Rogan yet obviously

Haha that bloke has a lot to answer for.

[maddogslater]

How did Poland get into your post? BFP said Georgia which is not NATO. There are more than a few similarities between Georgia and Ukraine.

He also mentioned the baltic states which are nato and border Russia

[TSANHO]

Putins no saint, clearly, as aren’t the people pulling the stings behind US and UK foreign policy, but I do feel there is significant truth in what Putin said about NATO no expanding eastwards towards Russia. If it was the opposite situation we would see that as an act of aggression.

Robert Kennedy spoke about this months ago, long before Putins interview. We always talk about propaganda from other countries, our propaganda is much more subtle and effective…but it’s still propaganda.

[i961pie]

Do you think it’s propoganda that any opposition to Putin either gets bumped off or arrested for corruption etc. The opposition to him must be very unlucky or stupid if it is. I wonder if Sunack or Biden or Macron etc. wished their opposition could be has bad?

[drillerpie]

Putins no saint, clearly, as aren’t the people pulling the stings behind US and UK foreign policy, but I do feel there is significant truth in what Putin said about NATO no expanding eastwards towards Russia. If it was the opposite situation we would see that as an act of aggression.

Robert Kennedy spoke about this months ago, long before Putins interview. We always talk about propaganda from other countries, our propaganda is much more subtle and effective…but it’s still propaganda.

What exactly is the serious truth? He has increased his land border with NATO because of his invasion. He has pulled soldiers away from the NATO border because of the invasion. It's not about NATO.

It's true that he's against NATO in that part of the world because he can't invade them once they're in, amongst other reasons. It's not a surprise that they want to join.

Most European countries have moved on from their imperial ambitions. France fought for Algeria but let it go. We fought for Ireland but let it go. Portugal let their African colonies go decades ago.

[maddogslater]

I don't think that's what he expected though.
He didn't count on the West standing together or the ukraine putting up such stiff opposition, saying that it looks like the Russian military have now got there sh1t together, impossible for ukraine to win so the best outcome would be a settlement allowing autonomy for the ethnic Russian part of the ukraine.

[Old_pie]

What exactly is the serious truth? He has increased his land border with NATO because of his invasion. He has pulled soldiers away from the NATO border because of the invasion. It's not about NATO.

It's true that he's against NATO in that part of the world because he can't invade them once they're in, amongst other reasons. It's not a surprise that they want to join.

Most European countries have moved on from their imperial ambitions. France fought for Algeria but let it go. We fought for Ireland but let it go. Portugal let their African colonies go decades ago.

TSHANO has not been able to differentiate between tanks rolling into a country and countries queuing up to apply to join an organisation that will contest tanks rolling into a country.

Let's take some non-Western press:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/...ukraine-border

November 2021:

"Russia has denied media reports that it is massing military units near its border with Ukraine."

Or perhaps he should remind himself of: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ed-2022-02-16/

""If Russia is successful in Ukraine, it would encourage it to increase pressure on the Baltics in the coming years," he said. "The threat of war has become the main policy tool for Putin."
Russia's defense ministry said its forces were pulling back after exercises in southern and western military districts near Ukraine, and Moscow's ambassador to Ireland insisted forces in western Russia would be back to their normal positions within three to four weeks."

That's like the week before the invasion.

Oops, sorry, I forgot. Russia isn't at war, it's just a "special military operation"