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    Bit subdued....

    ..from Saturday. I know we have never gone with the fake news that we had won the title in July that’s peddled by the media and just about a’body else bar anyone who actually follows, manages or plays for Dundee United. But let’s not go the other way and start to get all ‘pessimistic’ again. Saturday was not ideal, but we remain top and have a very good potential run of games coming up. (It actually feels like we’ve barely been at home so far with just two home league games from the start of August). BUT to refresh your memory, if it’s even needed, 12 months ago we were about to be thrashed, at home, by Ross County 5-1 going on 10. When you compare like with like, despite Saturday, we are in an indisputably better place so embrace it and keep the faith. I’m in hospo on Saturday and quite frankly, I’m going to be totally mad for it!

    P2BAA.

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    Saturday is massive when it comes to the mood of the fans. If we win then it will be bolstered considerably. Anything else and the feeling of here we go again will start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryTheTerror View Post
    Saturday is massive when it comes to the mood of the fans. If we win then it will be bolstered considerably. Anything else and the feeling of here we go again will start.
    Spot on TTT. But, the fans were well up for it v ICT and then the Funsters and we need the same on Saturday as make no mistake, Arbroath will bring through a good 800-900 and be right behind their team. Get behind the team from the start is the motto - as a support we shouldn’t just sit back and wait for things to happen.

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    Yea we need a positive backing and good backing numbers wise, team deserves it so far

    Reckon the reaction was disappointing and disproportionate to the negative side, we have a very good chance to get automatic promotion but we are going to lose atleast a handful of games on the way at the same time

    I've no doubt we will make it 3 wins from 3 at Tannadice on Saturday, hopefully though the crowd is up for it after the derby etc

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    Despite the hype in some sections of the media and fan base of other teams, i think this place is a bit subdued because we are not getting carried away, or affected by a wee, and expected in some quarters, bump in the road.

    Arbroath might be yet another banana skin along the road, but there are gonna be a few in the other 30 games still to come!

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    The stop start way the league games have come so far probably hasn't helped.
    We need to get back to 2 up front, high tempo. If we're going to win this league Arbroath or not these are the games we have to be taking 3 points from.

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    We have had a great start overall to season. Two home wins and its well above my expectations. My issue is with Robbie reverting to type after clearly showing he can steamroll this division with right formation. Hope its a blip. Fear its a cultural issue with him. systems dont win games but we seem to do well for 4 games then back to last season and before Robbie for Ayr game. Feed the Shanks and he will score.

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    I think some credit needs to be given to Ayr too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryTheTerror View Post
    Saturday is massive when it comes to the mood of the fans. If we win then it will be bolstered considerably. Anything else and the feeling of here we go again will start.
    Absolutely.

    Arbroath are no mugs, but we need to beat them on Sat to regain our momentum.

    Losing by two clear goals at Ayr will give every other team hope that they can unsettle us.

    We've got to knock that on the head.

    I think Robbie should send out the most attacking team he can muster and go at them hell-for-leather from the 1st whistle. The fans will respond to that, and hopefully the atmosphere and the players will feed of each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryTheTerror View Post
    I think some credit needs to be given to Ayr too...
    agree but we knew the beast they would be and frankly struggled for 45 min to accomodate the pace. Gaps appeared. Appere up top and we would have countered much much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shedboy1971 View Post
    agree but we knew the beast they would be and frankly struggled for 45 min to accomodate the pace. Gaps appeared. Appere up top and we would have countered much much better.
    Why, oh why, oh why? would we change a formation that clearly is working for us?

    Please just play 2 up front against any one!!!! Home or away ............ it was really working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeats 62 View Post
    Why, oh why, oh why? would we change a formation that clearly is working for us?

    Please just play 2 up front against any one!!!! Home or away ............ it was really working.
    I think this is why folk are a bit subdued. The realisation that Robbie hasn't stuck with the formation and the tactics that served us so well in the opening games. It's mental.
    He still thinks he's ****ing Pep Guardiola and to get turned over by Ayr yet again is beyond disappointing. It's the old here we go again type stuff that rightly is making fans apprehensive and it shouldn't be happening.
    We have to get all 3 points Saturday. We have to revert to Appere and Shankland together.

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    It will not come as any surprise to anyone that i think we are dodgy as phuck at the back,unfortunately Robbie does not see it that way.He had a night in with the Largs coaching manual and decided to revert to type(one up front)and tried to keep it tight away to Ayr.Their manager will have said to his players,"United have played 2 up top all season but they are frightened of the mighty Ayr and have packed the midfield to stifle you,get out there and get stuck into them."
    I honestly think we lost the initiative before a ball was kicked,it reminded me of Robbie's celebration when we took ST FN Mirren to penalties in the play off final.

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    You would think we had won 1 lost 4 with the reaction and demeanour of some fans since the weekend, its tiresome so it is

    Lol we had 3 wins from our first 8 league games and 11 pts last season before Robbie took charge

    He starts the season with 4 wins from 5 and 12 pts and still he can't catch a break with only two being home games (4-1 and 6-2 humpings of Inverness and Dundee), that after a difficult run of fixtures to begin with a more favourable run to come

    We aren't going to get a perfect season and Ayr away is not an easy fixture

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    Quote Originally Posted by GUNBOAT View Post
    It will not come as any surprise to anyone that i think we are dodgy as phuck at the back,unfortunately Robbie does not see it that way.He had a night in with the Largs coaching manual and decided to revert to type(one up front)and tried to keep it tight away to Ayr.Their manager will have said to his players,"United have played 2 up top all season but they are frightened of the mighty Ayr and have packed the midfield to stifle you,get out there and get stuck into them."
    I honestly think we lost the initiative before a ball was kicked,it reminded me of Robbie's celebration when we took ST FN Mirren to penalties in the play off final.


    Their manager never won a single dundee derby in god knows how many attempts and his Utd teams had the softest defences I can remember in my time, it was actually a waste of time going to games under him as we would regularly take 4 and 5 at places like Motherwell and Killie, it was a minter to follow mccalls United, like many players he is ok at a wee club with no expectations in a comfort zone, can't cut it at clubs with expectations, let's see how they fair at Tannadice this season and where they are after 36 games

    Not in a million years would I swap him for Neilson

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    I never suggested anywhere that we should replace our manager with McCall,even he has said with United's budget it would be very difficult to finish ahead of them after 36 games,however if he is such a shyte manager why does his tiny club keep beating us?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shedka View Post
    You would think we had won 1 lost 4 with the reaction and demeanour of some fans since the weekend, its tiresome so it is

    Lol we had 3 wins from our first 8 league games and 11 pts last season before Robbie took charge

    He starts the season with 4 wins from 5 and 12 pts and still he can't catch a break with only two being home games (4-1 and 6-2 humpings of Inverness and Dundee), that after a difficult run of fixtures to begin with a more favourable run to come

    We aren't going to get a perfect season and Ayr away is not an easy fixture
    And some fans head in the sand 'Neilson is god' reaction is also tiresome. The manager reverted to type last weekend and blew it big time. Let's hope whoever at the club that had a word in his shell-like the last time about playing 2 up front and flipping attacking from the get-go has the same word again because our manager is obviously very stubborn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GUNBOAT View Post
    I never suggested anywhere that we should replace our manager with McCall,even he has said with United's budget it would be very difficult to finish ahead of them after 36 games,however if he is such a shyte manager why does his tiny club keep beating us?.
    Indeed

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    Not bumming him up here but I reckon McCall is a far better manager now than what he was 15 years ago .
    Was definitely our most difficult game to date last week, hence the reason I kept saying it was a massive game leading up to it. Was a great chance to put a marker down to the rest that we're the real deal and they are all playing for the play offs.
    But like Gunboat said Pep Neilson decides to change it and go back to the one up front phish, which gave Ayr the initiative from the start.
    We may well have still lost last week but if had continued with the same as previous 4 games then he would have got a bit more slack on here I reckon.
    Massive game v Arbroath front foot from the start no excuses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shedka View Post
    You would think we had won 1 lost 4 with the reaction and demeanour of some fans since the weekend, its tiresome so it is

    Lol we had 3 wins from our first 8 league games and 11 pts last season before Robbie took charge

    He starts the season with 4 wins from 5 and 12 pts and still he can't catch a break with only two being home games (4-1 and 6-2 humpings of Inverness and Dundee), that after a difficult run of fixtures to begin with a more favourable run to come

    We aren't going to get a perfect season and Ayr away is not an easy fixture
    Got to agree with you on this.

    Some on here were a "bit subdued" after only giving the FUN 6.

    I also agree with what most of the others are saying that Neilson shouldn't have started Brown & he also should have played with 2 up front because even though Appere was our best player on the day playing out left - Shankland was being outmuscled at every instance by their 6 fut 4 Centre half so if they were playing closer together and interchanging then it would have gave the Ayr defence more to think about.

    The real pivotal moment came when Clark hit the post with that absolute sitter of a header at 1 - 0 then less than a minute later they get awarded a soft penalty.

    Clark should have made it 1 - 1 then the momentum could have been with us.

    We had 20 efforts on goal so hardly the stat of a team on the defensive is it?

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