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  • I see that the “independence in five years” rubber bone was tossed to the internal electorate by the leadership candidates yesterday, according to today’s press. No word of the political mechanism required, nor the means of connecting with the non-believers or the undecideds. I suspect, however, that the current culture will continue to prevail.

    “Separatist!”

    “Yoon!”

    “Poopypants!”

    “Yer ma!”

    I switched off from it all about December 2013, and it doesn’t look to have improved much.

    Wha’s like us?

    Er….most other people everywhere, I’d guess.

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    • Originally posted by 57vintage View Post

      Wha’s like us?

      Er….most other people everywhere, I’d guess.

      That's the point of freeing ourselves from the english really.

      To be able to join in with other nations as a free and equal partner.

      Not to want to feel superior by chumming up to the yanks all the time and pretending that empire still counts.



      Anyway, nation states should be broken up.
      Last edited by donsdaft; 15-03-2023, 08:40 AM.

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      • My missus is a party member so it was on in the house. What kind of sad b’stard would go along to that, if you weren’t a member? Half the audience would never vote for them regardless. Absolutely tragic.

        The candidates themselves were three different flavours of sh1te

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        • Anarchy, it's the only way.

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          • Originally posted by 57vintage View Post
            I see that the “independence in five years” rubber bone was tossed to the internal electorate by the leadership candidates yesterday, according to today’s press. No word of the political mechanism required, nor the means of connecting with the non-believers or the undecideds. I suspect, however, that the current culture will continue to prevail.

            “Separatist!”

            “Yoon!”

            “Poopypants!”

            “Yer ma!”

            I switched off from it all about December 2013, and it doesn’t look to have improved much.

            Wha’s like us?

            Er….most other people everywhere, I’d guess.
            If you had told me in 2015 we would be out of the EU within 5 years, I'd have laughed loud at you.

            I doubt it will happen, but would love it to come true.

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            • Originally posted by Mason89 View Post
              My missus is a party member so it was on in the house. What kind of sad b’stard would go along to that, if you weren’t a member? Half the audience would never vote for them regardless. Absolutely tragic.

              The candidates themselves were three different flavours of sh1te
              I'd agree with that. No idea why anyone believes a word any politician says though.

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              • Originally posted by Mason89 View Post
                My missus is a party member so it was on in the house. What kind of sad b’stard would go along to that, if you weren’t a member? Half the audience would never vote for them regardless. Absolutely tragic.

                The candidates themselves were three different flavours of sh1te
                Those that have risen to the top in The Party are the nodding dogs who haven’t the cerebral capacity to have an original thought. That includes bifters like Robertson and Matheson, and two out of the three leadership wannabes. Forbes has at least some thought-processing mechanisms behind that sniper’s dream forehead. That makes her potentially dangerous to The Party Establishment who under Murrell and his beard Sturgeon were able to rule despotically with any hint of departure from The Party line stood on, and the non-disputatious groomed and entitled lamebrains pushed forward to parrot The Party line. I keep coming back to Animal Farm in analogising (not through my anus) the mechanisms by which this state of affairs has come to pass, and “4 legs good, 2 legs bad” is a succinct Orwellian summing-up of the Sturgeonite loyalists who have deluded and, I believe, intimidated those who choose to offer a different path to independence, inside The Party or in the wider political world.

                The next 12 months are going to be very interesting if the cracks are wide enough to bring the factionalism into plain sight.

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                • Originally posted by Mason89 View Post
                  Yes.
                  But unfortunately you'd still be prosecuted for killing scum like that, so you just need to ignore them.
                  I take it baw-bags have now decided "wokerati" is a proper word?
                  Another that slides into the definition of "a word used by sociopaths to describe people who try to act decently" (see also "virtue signalling" and "social justice warriors").

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                  • "Sniper's dream forehead" 🤣

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                    • The worst place on planet earth is inside Tory HQ, when the focus group try and come up with this sh1t.

                      ‘Left wing lawyers’…oh Rupert, you are awful!
                      ‘Twitterati woke liberals’….that’ll work Tyrone!
                      ‘Mr Flip Flop’…You’re such a cad Jeremy!

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                      • Originally posted by TheDeeDon View Post
                        In a lot of instances they are sadly perfect representatives of the electorate.
                        This is a major part of the issue, which came first though?

                        This fact is the one that turned me towards independence.
                        I was, historically, not in favour of independence.
                        My argument was that I had more to align me with, say, a brickie from Sheffield or a joiner from Tyneside than, say, scum like Michael Forsyth and Malcolm Rifkind*.

                        Sadly, as this century has progressed, and seeing how little inroads a landslide Labour (at least in name &#129300 government made into the fundamental problems, and the said brickie and joiner having morphed collectively into part of the populist problem, I believe totally that my only chance of ever living under a non-morally repugnant government is outwith Westminster.

                        If a UK wide body ever looks to have better than a snowball in hell's chance of achieving this, my outlook may change.

                        It's not ever happening though.











                        * Only two people on TV have ever induced the level of physical and verbal apoplexy I witnessed in my late grandfather.
                        Mavis Riley off Corrie "that fu cking wifey gars my erse rin clear watter" and other such prouncements, and Malcolm Rifkind "I canna thole that ferrety faced little ba stard" etc.

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                        • That Brickie and Joiner probably voted to steal your European citizenship.

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                          • * Only two people on TV have ever induced the level of physical and verbal apoplexy I witnessed in my late grandfather.
                            Mavis Riley off Corrie "that fu cking wifey gars my erse rin clear watter" and other such prouncements, and Malcolm Rifkind "I canna thole that ferrety faced little ba stard" etc.
                            Grandas are ace. I had as one a railwayman and trade union activist who loved Elvis, according to Ma. I can just remember him - I was 3.5 when he died aged 58. A German POW camp took away his best years. My paternal granda was a hard-working Banffshire crofter. The day before I went to school in April 1962, I remember sitting on a slidy metallic mudguard on his Fordie petrol-paraffin tractor as he ploo'ed his park before seeding it. It's now Keith Golf Club's 9th fairway. Shoulda left it in corn. He got to 90, despite the hardship. A kind and generous mannie. I am named after both.

                            My grandson thinks his Granda is ace. He and I live in The Beano around the mid-60s. Cushions balanced on doors, cactus plants on seats, carelessly-dropped banana skins, the Laurel and Hardy custard pie fight, and looking through the letterbox only to be soaked by a postie with a water pistol (they also hide, water soaker-equipped, inside pillar boxes, the crafty bstds). Any potentially-tricky situation can be undone by shouting "Yikes" to avert the peril.

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                            • Grandas should all live in the mid sixties Beano

                              It’s the only way to be.

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                              • Originally posted by 57vintage View Post
                                Grandas are ace. I had as one a railwayman and trade union activist who loved Elvis, according to Ma. I can just remember him - I was 3.5 when he died aged 58. A German POW camp took away his best years. My paternal granda was a hard-working Banffshire crofter. The day before I went to school in April 1962, I remember sitting on a slidy metallic mudguard on his Fordie petrol-paraffin tractor as he ploo'ed his park before seeding it. It's now Keith Golf Club's 9th fairway. Shoulda left it in corn. He got to 90, despite the hardship. A kind and generous mannie. I am named after both.

                                My grandson thinks his Granda is ace. He and I live in The Beano around the mid-60s. Cushions balanced on doors, cactus plants on seats, carelessly-dropped banana skins, the Laurel and Hardy custard pie fight, and looking through the letterbox only to be soaked by a postie with a water pistol (they also hide, water soaker-equipped, inside pillar boxes, the crafty bstds). Any potentially-tricky situation can be undone by shouting "Yikes" to avert the peril.
                                My Granda is possibly the only person I ever looked up to. A committed socialist, albeit from a fairly rich family, he was a very respected trade unionist and principled man.

                                I've done him proud though in that I have stuck to his leftist views, which is no easy thing considering the murky political opinions within my own family.
                                Last edited by TheDeeDon; 15-03-2023, 11:52 AM.

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