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  • Keir (Glasses for Passes) Startmer claims that he initially thought that he’d been compliant by not declaring gifts to his wife within the requisite 28-day period. The guide to the Commons rules states MPs should register “any benefit given to any third party, whether or not this accompanied a benefit for him or her, if the Member is aware, or could reasonably be expected to be aware, of the benefit and that it was given because of his or her membership of the House or parliamentary or political activities”. Somehow I doubt the legitimacy of Starmer’s compliancy claim - he’s an experienced barrister and former DPP head FFS and this is his wife that we’re talking about, not a distant cousin.

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    • Originally posted by Shetland Don View Post
      Keir (Glasses for Passes) Startmer claims that he initially thought that he’d been compliant by not declaring gifts to his wife within the requisite 28-day period. The guide to the Commons rules states MPs should register “any benefit given to any third party, whether or not this accompanied a benefit for him or her, if the Member is aware, or could reasonably be expected to be aware, of the benefit and that it was given because of his or her membership of the House or parliamentary or political activities”. Somehow I doubt the legitimacy of Starmer’s compliancy claim - he’s an experienced barrister and former DPP head FFS and this is his wife that we’re talking about, not a distant cousin.
      Of course he knows what he's doing, but just change it to stop it from happening at all as it just doesn't read well.

      It's not just Starmer, it's all of them that do it. You can see the registers online and it doesn't make good reading.

      Parliament should also look more into the why does a politician need someone to buy his Wife clothes.

      It just stinks.

      We're all in it together though!

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      • Clothes for his wife?!? What the actual ****.

        WTF would accept clothes or money for clothes? You just wouldn’t.

        Few years ago when I was really ill (unable to walk etc and my family having to do everything for me) it was suggested by several professionals that they apply for carers allowance. My mother took umbrage every time and pointed out she wasn’t taking money for looking after her own family but this lot would have been on the phone to the DWP before I was even out the hospital.

        Clothes for his ****ing wife. That’s royally pissed me off.

        Snouts in the trough the lot of them.

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        • I think the Tory Bliar administration disabused all of us of any notion that you could get a fag paper between the "big two" in terms of UK politics.
          We've become ever more like 'Murica, unfortunately.

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          • Well, I’ll go to the end of our street on my solar-powered bike.

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            • Paywall free:

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              • Originally posted by 57vintage View Post
                Well, I’ll go to the end of our street on my solar-powered bike.

                https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...tions-lunches/
                But, are you able to reclaim your VAT, Vintage!?

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                • Originally posted by Shetland Don View Post
                  But, are you able to reclaim your VAT, Vintage!?
                  Nae idea. My people deal with that sort of administrative malarkey and associated fiscal fripperies. My fixed income is subject to PAYE, and, as a *sole trader with no mission statement, targets, strategies, customers, turnover, staff (our most important asset, the fúcking militant thieving bástards), or assets against which I can offset corporation tax, that’s it. I haven’t completed a self-assessment form since the ârse fell out of my performing world in 2009, and my voluntary work attracts no emoluments or allowed expenses. “We are just ordinary folk”.

                  *on the odd occasion I treat myself to a haddock and chips (from the chipper, of course) I am charged non-returnable VAT at 20%, for which scandal I hope that Thatcher’s being spit-roasted in all eternity by Satan himself, and that he and King Dong are changing ends at half time. Quite how one calculates half time in eternity is one that I’ll leave to the quadrillions of bean counters that populate the sulphuric furnaces of Gehenna.

                  And yes, it is 0327, but I’ve had my 150 minutes sleep.

                  I trust I can rely on your vote?

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                  • Originally posted by 57vintage View Post
                    Cash for questions. Was that not what Jonathan Aitken was jailed for all those years ago, well committed perjury when he took the Guardian to court for the accusations.

                    They are all at it min.

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                    • Originally posted by TheDeeDon View Post
                      Cash for questions.

                      They are all at it min.
                      Welcome to the point I’m making about licensed spivvery.

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                      • Originally posted by 57vintage View Post
                        Nae idea. My people deal with that sort of administrative malarkey and associated fiscal fripperies. My fixed income is subject to PAYE, and, as a *sole trader with no mission statement, targets, strategies, customers, turnover, staff (our most important asset, the fúcking militant thieving bástards), or assets against which I can offset corporation tax, that’s it. I haven’t completed a self-assessment form since the ârse fell out of my performing world in 2009, and my voluntary work attracts no emoluments or allowed expenses. “We are just ordinary folk”.

                        *on the odd occasion I treat myself to a haddock and chips (from the chipper, of course) I am charged non-returnable VAT at 20%, for which scandal I hope that Thatcher’s being spit-roasted in all eternity by Satan himself, and that he and King Dong are changing ends at half time. Quite how one calculates half time in eternity is one that I’ll leave to the quadrillions of bean counters that populate the sulphuric furnaces of Gehenna.

                        And yes, it is 0327, but I’ve had my 150 minutes sleep.

                        I trust I can rely on your vote?
                        All food that is moist and hot along with most drinks is subjected to VAT at 20%. Some women too should perhaps be subject to VAT, even at say 10%, in these trying fiscal times - maybe a topic for discussion at one of the Green Party’s sponsored luncheons, Lorna?

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                        • Originally posted by Shetland Don View Post
                          All food that is moist and hot along with most drinks is subjected to VAT at 20%. Some women too should perhaps be subject to VAT, even at say 10%, in these trying fiscal times - maybe a topic for discussion at one of the Green Party’s sponsored luncheons, Lorna?
                          1 May, 1984 was the date that the late Baroness Thatcher introduced VAT on takeaway food - I don’t remember that at all as I couldn’t even afford a takeaway back then and we had very few takeaway food outlets in Shetland at that point in time anyway!

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                          • Originally posted by 57vintage View Post
                            Welcome to the point I’m making about licensed spivvery.
                            I thought it was a bit of whataboutery as is was posted in the 'Son of Toolmaker' thread.

                            You'll get no arguments from me about them all being at it, but clothes for your Wife takes some beating.

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                            • Originally posted by Shetland Don View Post
                              All food that is moist and hot along with most drinks is subjected to VAT at 20%. Some women too should perhaps be subject to VAT, even at say 10%, in these trying fiscal times - maybe a topic for discussion at one of the Green Party’s sponsored luncheons, Lorna?
                              That would be a wh0re of a thing to get through parliament.

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                              • Originally posted by TheDeeDon View Post
                                I thought it was a bit of whataboutery as is was posted in the 'Son of Toolmaker' thread.

                                You'll get no arguments from me about them all being at it, but clothes for your Wife takes some beating.
                                It’s truly lamentable TheDeeDon, why can’t Vintage buy his wife her own clothes!? They’re certainly all at it!

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