Aberdeen v Hibernian

[rico94]

The recruitment team and prawcess - whatever it is - needs binned too.

Whoever recommended the likes of Yengi and milanovic also needs fired into the North Sea. Just unbelievably bad signings.

We have all laughed at the diets, Bloom and his fancy XBox, but by fuuck it seems to be working. Turns out this recruitment lark can work - if you know what you are doing.

To think he looked at us afore them and backed off cause of the stadium issues.

Letting the stadium rot, Something else we can thank Milne for then.

It was only last season that Bloom appointed Critchley because the data said that he was the best candidate for the job.

To be fair on Bloom he has quickly learned from his mistake and decided to appoint an experienced manager who knows how Scottish football works and probably isn’t getting involved in the final decision when it comes to signing players.

Our chairmans ego wont allow him to learn from his mistakes, he has filled the club with staff who will blow smoke up his arse instead of people who will challenge him and tell him that he has got decisions wrong.

Lets be honest here, Jimmy Thelin needs to go but this time next year we will be saying the same thing about his replacement and probably with a completely different squad of players we have spent millions on.

[RED_JOHN]

Jimmy Thelin cannot find a formation to suit his large squad of players
Dave Cormack has failed at every managerial appointment he has made
Jimmy Thelin is 100 percent not correct for Aberdeen FC and comes across as well out his depth
Dave Cormack is failing Aberdeen FC football wise
Jimmy Thelin will not walk away as he has absolutely no loyalty to this club
Dave Cormack will plod along with Thelin because he is afraid to admit he should not have said a word about a three year project as it meant he was backed into a corner.
Jimmy Thelin has a horrendous winning percentage as Aberdeen FC head coach/manager
Dave Cormack needs football people to get him out of this mess and this needs to happen extremely quickly

[The_Moog]

Our chairmans ego wont allow him to learn from his mistakes, he has filled the club with staff who will blow smoke up his arse instead of people who will challenge him and tell him that he has got decisions wrong.

Lets be honest here, Jimmy Thelin needs to go but this time next year we will be saying the same thing about his replacement and probably with a completely different squad of players we have spent millions on.

Sadly you may get right regarding your second point above in that we may well just be in the same position in 12 months time. Certainly will be if nothing changes behind the scenes.

So our only hope is Cormack becomes humble - its the AFC buzzword after all - realises he has to stay right out of all football matters and appoints a DOF who knows what he is doing and doesnt blow smoke up his arse.

Thelin needs to go, but we need the new DOF in first so he can be part of the recruitment process for the next guy.

Absolutely no point appointing a new manager before the DOF.

Just get on with it and get the DOF in now so we can move on from this latest utter shambles.

[Jupiter]

What about the penguin kidnapper - is he still up for being DOF?

[rico94]

What about the penguin kidnapper - is he still up for being DOF?

Sounds like he is still coming in but a personal issue is delaying it.

From what I heard he has been recommended to us by Atlanta United which is a concerning because all of their recommendations to us have been horrendous, and that he is a huge Jimmy Thelin fan and he is looking forward to working with him.

Unfortunately for him his first job when he walks in the door will likely be sacking Jimmy Thelin.

[The_Moog]

Sounds like he is still coming in but a personal issue is delaying it.

From what I heard he has been recommended to us by Atlanta United which is a concerning because all of their recommendations to us have been horrendous, and that he is a huge Jimmy Thelin fan and he is looking forward to working with him.

Unfortunately for him his first job when he walks in the door will likely be sacking Jimmy Thelin.

Apparently his dad passed away which is sad news and obviously a perfectly valid reason to delay things.

That said, we need to get moving & start making the required changes before this clusterfuuck becomes unsalvageable, so hopefully the delay wont last much longer.

[rico94]

Just watched the highlights this morning.

What an embarrassing performance that was from the players.

At the time I thought Armstrong was fouled for their first goal but it was a good tackle and Armstrong just slid to his knees and pretty much gave up. Really poor from such an experienced player who has been a disappointment so far.

Our defence looks like it has no pace whatsoever,that little guy up front for them was making Milne look like he was running with lead boots on.Poor from him for their second goal as well.

The camera went on Dave Cormack at full time and he was looking absolutely gormless as if he doesnt know what to do. Its simple Dave, you have to fire your 5th manager in 5 years because you have got it wrong again.

[OneBrianIrvine]

I would have said absolutely gutted rather than gormless. He’s not stupid. Far from it.

Has he made mistakes? Yes, plenty but it’s obvious he is trying to address them. Gunn has got the dunt; he’s going down the experienced DOF route which would probably already have happened had the guy not had a personal issue.

‘Got it wrong again’ - hiring Thelin? I wouldn’t have said so. Issue still the initial one of hiring inexperienced background staff IMO and trading model. His appointment made more sense to me than a merry go rounder or lower league English jobber.

Ach don’t want to argue, the news of a young dandy losing her life puts it all in perspective, just fed up of everyone taking personal pot shots at all and sundry.

[rico94]

I would have said absolutely gutted rather than gormless. He’s not stupid. Far from it.

Has he made mistakes? Yes, plenty but it’s obvious he is trying to address them. Gunn has got the dunt; he’s going down the experienced DOF route which would probably already have happened had the guy not had a personal issue.

‘Got it wrong again’ - hiring Thelin? I wouldn’t have said so. Issue still the initial one of hiring inexperienced background staff IMO and trading model. His appointment made more sense to me than a merry go rounder or lower league English jobber.

Ach don’t want to argue, the news of a young dandy losing her life puts it all in perspective, just fed up of everyone taking personal pot shots at all and sundry.

As much as I like Thelin and wanted it to work Im afraid to say that he has got the appointment wrong again.

It?s great that Thelin won the Scottish Cup but unfortunately the way he is trying to get us to play isnt suited to us or Scottish football.

There is a lot more wrong with the club than just the manager and the next manager will probably struggle as well.But to me the previous managers got fired for a lot less, we were poor under the last 3 managers but I dont think we were ever in any danger of getting relegated.

[RED_JOHN]

Cormack and Lutz will obviously have the discussion about retaining Thelin as that is a given due to current circumstances.
It is a bit of pressure heaped on the new DoF straight away and it will give us all an insight into how much say he will actually have at Aberdeen FC. He could give Thelin a bit more time and show he is willing to give him an opportunity but that in itself might be regarded as looking weak.
Cormack could do everyone at the club a favour by sacking Thelin and then appointing the new DoF and fully let him hire the new manager.
No point employing a gardener then go out and cut the grass yourself. Let the expert of their role make the next choice of manager. Please keep Cormack, Milne and Burrows well away from managerial discussions.

[blowupsheep]

we were poor under the last 3 managers but I dont think we were ever in any danger of getting relegated.

Feel exactly the same Rico mate, we are in serious danger of relegation and the sooner it strikes home to Cormack and his mates the better, as once they accept that they will have to take action and do something about it, I just hope by then it's not already too late or there is a serious chance that we will be competing in the championship next season.

I said on another thread I started my Neil Lennon "campaign" a few years ago just purely to generate a bit of banter on this site and get some bites (and there was more than few bites it's safe to say)
But joking all aside IF we had appointed Lennon in March 2021 instead of Stephen Glass than for sure 100% we would not be in the shambolic mess that we find ourselves in today, thats is for sure.

And I only suggested him to try and wind up some fellow posters and have a laugh.
I don't see many people laughing now, apart form the rest of scottish football p1ssing themselves laughing us

[TheDeeDon]

Just watched the highlights this morning.

What an embarrassing performance that was from the players.

At the time I thought Armstrong was fouled for their first goal but it was a good tackle and Armstrong just slid to his knees and pretty much gave up. Really poor from such an experienced player who has been a disappointment so far.

Our defence looks like it has no pace whatsoever,that little guy up front for them was making Milne look like he was running with lead boots on.Poor from him for their second goal as well.

The camera went on Dave Cormack at full time and he was looking absolutely gormless as if he doesnt know what to do. Its simple Dave, you have to fire your 5th manager in 5 years because you have got it wrong again.

I don't think much of what went wrong yesterday was down to Gnasher. That was 100% on the manager.

Weren't too many of us complaining about the appointment of Thelin, it seemed a logical step for us.
Jimmy certainly ticked most of the boxes for us and what we were looking for and we all bought into the 'project' and it started off so well (masking a load of issues) and even won us the Scottish Cup.

I still say we are a well run club for the most part, but we appear to have made a massive blunder with the appointment of Thelin.

I can't comment on individual roles within the club, as I know nothing about it or how a football club should be run, but from my point of view, what I am watching on the pitch hasn't been good for the best part of a year and shows little sign of improving.

I remember reading someone saying Jimmy being our Ivan Golac, and it really isn't too far off the mark.

[TheDeeDon]

Just watched the highlights this morning.
At the time I thought Armstrong was fouled for their first goal but it was a good tackle and Armstrong just slid to his knees and pretty much gave up. Really poor from such an experienced player who has been a disappointment so far.
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Thing is though, Armstrong never has been and never will be a holding midfielder. He is wasted in that role with us.

As much as Armstrong was to blame for the opener, the performance from Palaversa was even worse.
At least Armstrong was trying. Palaversa was like the second coming of Gary McDonald.

[DonUnder]

It’s hard to believe Jimmy Thelin can’t see it.
We have no spine.
Everything came through the middle yesterday with Armstrong being out muscled and the doing a dying swan for the first. Shinnie was also out muscled more than once against St. Mirren which, fortunately, they didn’t profit from.
Hibs came through the middle time after time because their forwards were not impeded by midfielders and met centre backs at full speed.
Derek young described it as a basketball match and suggested a centre back should be pushing into midfield when we attack.
To me basketball is like 5’s you lose the ball you likely lose a goal but you need to be good enough to do the Barcelona thing if that’s your approach. Iniesta could keep the ball off you in a phone box.
We need strength in midfield not very similar wide midfield players – FFS even Killian Phillips is getting plaudits.

Not one for a tinfoil hat but got to wonder who is pulling the strings

[rico94]

I don't think much of what went wrong yesterday was down to Gnasher. That was 100% on the manager.

Weren't too many of us complaining about the appointment of Thelin, it seemed a logical step for us.
Jimmy certainly ticked most of the boxes for us and what we were looking for and we all bought into the 'project' and it started off so well (masking a load of issues) and even won us the Scottish Cup.

I still say we are a well run club for the most part, but we appear to have made a massive blunder with the appointment of Thelin.

I can't comment on individual roles within the club, as I know nothing about it or how a football club should be run, but from my point of view, what I am watching on the pitch hasn't been good for the best part of a year and shows little sign of improving.

I remember reading someone saying Jimmy being our Ivan Golac, and it really isn't too far off the mark.

I never said that yesterday’s result was down to Cormack but it certainly wasnt 100% on Thelin either.

You are saying that what we have been watching for the best part of a year hasnt been good,the reality is bar a few purple patches in the last 5 years under multiple managers none of it has been good.

Its a football club so if the team is struggling for such a long period of time then it would suggest that the club is not being run that well.

Lets see how the new football director gets on,hopefully we will see an improvement on the pitch because something behind the scenes has been affecting the results and performances in the past 5 years.