Rangers Then, Sevco Now, Scotland's Shame Forever....

[sheepcrooky]

SFA already replied, no further action to be taken.......sweep sweep sweep

Ev n given the complete corruption of the SFA, I am still completely gobsmacked by their statement. They have basically ignored the highest court in the land and protected their own beloved Rangers.
The UK Supreme Court can find fault, but the SFA can't, un****ingbelievable.

[KIWIRED]

Regan and Doncaster should go now. They where all part of ensuring Rangers had a advantage ahead of all the other clubs who adhered to the rules as known at the time

For me, they should resign and Rangers should be stripped of any title and cup wins during the period in question

Anything else is unacceptable

[Redmadders96]

Ev n given the complete corruption of the SFA, I am still completely gobsmacked by their statement. They have basically ignored the highest court in the land and protected their own beloved Rangers.
The UK Supreme Court can find fault, but the SFA can't, un****ingbelievable.

Should we expect anything less from the corrupt Strathclyde Football Association.
Complete joke. So would they be the same if it was AFC who had broke the rules???
No chance we would be getting titles removes Cups removed and a fine to boot.

[Sidney77]

Regan and Doncaster would walk in a handful of days, in any other walk of life. The brass neck of these arses is unbelievable.

[Pacman1903]

The UK Supreme Court can find fault, but the SFA can't, un****ingbelievable.

Pretty much my feelings

[GGMDONS]

has anyone checked to see if the current cub are using EBT'S , If so then the Sfa & Spfl have to act.

No individual or employer should get away with it, also if you take over a company you should be taking on all their Debts as well as all their Assets,which would then mean if their's a court case the new employer should be aware of what he's taking on.

However if your declared bankcrupt or go into administartion employers seem to think they can walk away & start up under a different disguise

[Ken Esmin]

Regan and Doncaster would walk in a handful of days, in any other walk of life. The brass neck of these arses is unbelievable.

An absolute disgrace of a statement from the SFA
The correct and the right thing to do is to strip oldco of titles won while cheating if their appeal is thrown out.
In any other sport this would happen and agree Doncaster and Regan need removed regardless.

[Pacman1903]

has anyone checked to see if the current cub are using EBT'S , If so then the Sfa & Spfl have to act.

No individual or employer should get away with it, also if you take over a company you should be taking on all their Debts as well as all their Assets,which would then mean if their's a court case the new employer should be aware of what he's taking on.

However if your declared bankcrupt or go into administartion employers seem to think they can walk away 7 start up under a different disguise

The company was liquidated, it was beyond bankrucy and admin

[So_cal_Dandie]

Because the SFA are the governing body and it was them who granted the licence to play in Europe despite the fact that their rules about disclosure of contracts was broken. They could also influence the SPFL regarding the stripping of title position.

And there we go again, your now linking the SFA with providing the license, to the New Club to play in Europe with the outcome of the Big Tax case on the Old Club.

Look the point is if we want the right action to be taken, we have to find the right people to put the pressure on to get those actions taken, period.

If we want domestic titles stripped, then it is the SPFL
If we want Scottish Cups stripped, it is the SFA
If we want League Cups Stripped, then **** knows who, because the SPFL, will say it is not them and the SFL is no more

If you want Rangers banned from Europe, then that is UEFA, not sure what your reasons would be? The SFA granted a License to Sevco, and as much as I hate them, Sevco did not break "their rules about disclosure of contracts".

[sancho_panza]

It's worth remembering that Celtic also used an EBT scheme in 2005. They didn't use it as extensively as Rangers did (they only used it for one player) but they still used one so if we're stripping titles/trophies they should also be in the firing line for that season.

[Gogsred]

And there we go again, your now linking the SFA with providing the license, to the New Club to play in Europe with the outcome of the Big Tax case on the Old Club.

Look the point is if we want the right action to be taken, we have to find the right people to put the pressure on to get those actions taken, period.

If we want domestic titles stripped, then it is the SPFL
If we want Scottish Cups stripped, it is the SFA
If we want League Cups Stripped, then **** knows who, because the SPFL, will say it is not them and the SFL is no more

If you want Rangers banned from Europe, then that is UEFA, not sure what your reasons would be? The SFA granted a License to Sevco, and as much as I hate them, Sevco did not break "their rules about disclosure of contracts".

No I am not confusing the old and the new. I wasn't referring to the new club.

SFA granted a licence to old club/Sevco. Sevco used the EBT's and they failed to disclose all of the contracts which they issued to their players - ie they failed to disclose the side letters which formed part of the contractual terms between club and player. They deliberately misled the SFA.

They can't be punished now of course because they are dead (other than titles being taken away) but if the SFA came clean and were honest about the whole thing instead of issuing a wishy washy statement then that would maybe just maybe make the SPFL take some notice.

[Jormungand]

I was on the bears' den earlier, checking oot this rumour aboot a Luxembourg boy nae being eligible and that maybe sevco would be allowed to stay in Europe.

That thread was on the second page, the later entries confirming that there was nothing to the rumour. Threads that had been created in the meantime, and on the front page, include:

"Ban celtic fans from Ibrox"

"Rangers need to get out of Scottish Football ASAP"

"Sinister words on Twitter from Spence"

and, possibly my favourite, "Best Revenge is Success"

The indomitable human spirit, eh?

[NaeMairNeeps]

Oh please, please dinna get the c**ts banned from Europe. Jist gies one night per year like last night, and ye can ban Christmas if ye like

[AiberdonianAce]

It's worth remembering that Celtic also used an EBT scheme in 2005. They didn't use it as extensively as Rangers did (they only used it for one player) but they still used one so if we're stripping titles/trophies they should also be in the firing line for that season.

They used it with juninho but came to an settlement with HMRC when it was ruled to be a violation (as did the English clubs that used them).

[Landvetter83]

Now that what has been blindingly obvious to us since this whole pantomime came to light - they CHEATED - has been confirmed, three things need to happen:

1. Regan and Doncaster must resign immediately. Their behaviour in protecting the entities at Ibrox in the last 7 years has left them brutally compromised after today's ruling.
2. The Lord Nimmo Smith Commission ruling must be declared void. No need for a new commission - the Court of Session and Supreme Court have already made a decision that can be interpreted simply - they gained unfair sporting advantage by CHEATING.
3. An appropriate football penalty must be imposed by the SFA and SPFL. Under the 5-Way agreement, footballing liabilities transfer to the new entity - Sevco - therefore the new club must be held to account.

It's interesting reading the BBC pieces today and seeing them bend over backwards to state that this ruling has no impact on the current "company that runs Rangers". This is boll0cks - of course it has to affect them. They are the continuation of the entity that died in 2012 and under the 5-way agreement have to be liable for footballing penalties. In any case, how can anyone deny they are not a phoenix organization when 3 of the current Directors are the very same that were in place prior to liquidation?

Will be interesting to see what happens next. Our Chairman's position is to implore us to "move on". Sorry Stewart - no chance! I, for one shelled out cash and emotional energy following Aberdeen FC, and all the while one club was financially doping itself to the point we could not compete. This industrial scale cheating cannot be allowed to be forgotten about.