Rangers Then, Sevco Now, Scotland's Shame Forever....

[afc1903mad]

As I said last night, if I was Milne, I'd be having half a mind as to who we replace DM with
Which worries me given his track record.

I'll make a random prediction and say by the time we play the Huns at the B@stard Garden in a month, DM will be in the home dug out and we'll have Derek Adams in ours.
I await the abuse :-)

"IF" he goes, I reckon Paul Sheerin will step up and be assisted with Barry Robson.
Sheerin is not only the development manager, but heavily involved in the first team as well

[afc1903mad]

I’m just delighted it’s being discussed. We’re almost at the end of his time here regardless

Who do you want in to replace Mason?

[afc1903mad]

Why drag training facilities into it?

It's got nothing to do with that.

AFC could build training facilities any time they wanted to.

Because like it or not, assurances were given in the summer and they have not been fulfilled.
That changes the considerations

[Stupie82]

"IF" he goes, I reckon Paul Sheerin will step up and be assisted with Barry Robson.
Sheerin is not only the development manager, but heavily involved in the first team as well

We cannot afford to make an appointment like that. I’m sorry, I like Sheerin and I like Robson, but they have done nothing to deserve that role. If we were a mid-table team or lower, I would say yes give them a chance, but Derek has took us to a decent level, that I didn’t think we would see for a very long time. If there is to be a new manager, which I suspect there will be, then it has to be someone who can hit the ground running and push us to that next level, if that’s even achievable.

Sheerin and Robson sounds like a very cheap option and is high risk if it doesn’t pay off. With record season ticket sales and the push for new Stadium and facilities, the appointment needs to be 100% right, something Milne has a habit of not doing. We cannot go down this route if we are to be successful.

[Mason89]

Who do you want in to replace Mason?

Jack Ross

[RedStarTorphins]

Jack Ross

I'd far rather we went for him, a young ambitious coach/manager, than a "safe" uninspiring manager such as the more likely Milne candidates....by that I mean Derek Adams, Tommy Wright, or Alex McLeish.
F**K that

[afc1903mad]

We cannot afford to make an appointment like that. I’m sorry, I like Sheerin and I like Robson, but they have done nothing to deserve that role. If we were a mid-table team or lower, I would say yes give them a chance, but Derek has took us to a decent level, that I didn’t think we would see for a very long time. If there is to be a new manager, which I suspect there will be, then it has to be someone who can hit the ground running and push us to that next level, if that’s even achievable.

Sheerin and Robson sounds like a very cheap option and is high risk if it doesn’t pay off. With record season ticket sales and the push for new Stadium and facilities, the appointment needs to be 100% right, something Milne has a habit of not doing. We cannot go down this route if we are to be successful.

It may be seen as a cheap option, but I think it is a long term strategy.
Its called succession planning.
I think Sheerin was lured from Arbroath with this in mind.
I think he turned down the chance of ICT, because he expects DM and Doc to move on shortly.

Sheerin and Robson know the squad, work with them daily.
Heavily involved in match days preparing the team.
Its a lower risk than you might first think

[afc1903mad]

I'd far rather we went for him, a young ambitious coach/manager, than a "safe" uninspiring manager such as the more likely Milne candidates....by that I mean Derek Adams, Tommy Wright, or Alex McLeish.
F**K that

Jack Ross would be a very interesting move.
He has done well so far.
A risk as never managed at this level before, but a worthwhile risk nonetheless.

Is there any other external candidates that would inspire choice?
I think Graham Potter would be a more ambitious move.
Took Östersunds FK from Tier 4 to Tier 1 in the Swedish leagues, straight into Europe and into the group stages.
He's assisted by Billy Reid as well who knows the Scottish market and developing youth from his time at Hamilton

[Stupie82]

It may be seen as a cheap option, but I think it is a long term strategy.
Its called succession planning.
I think Sheerin was lured from Arbroath with this in mind.
I think he turned down the chance of ICT, because he expects DM and Doc to move on shortly.

Sheerin and Robson know the squad, work with them daily.
Heavily involved in match days preparing the team.
Its a lower risk than you might first think

They may have interaction with the team and match preparation as you have said, but that doesn’t automatically make them a direct fit as football managers. Okay Sheerin was manager at Arbroath, but that’s a long way off our level.

You take a risk now and it could end up setting us back years. McInnes has made us a steady club, with the expectation of 2nd place now firmly implanted in the minds of the fans. Anything other than that will be seen as unsuccessful and I see such an appointment as high risk. The ‘romance’ of promoting within and achieving success, very rarely comes to fruition. For me, now is not the time for this sort of appointment.

I wrote off Jack Ross when Sunderland were in for McInnes, stating he hadn’t proven himself and was a risk. That is still in my mind, but he has turned St Mirren right around and he would/should be in with a shout. I still see it as a tad risky, but not as much as I once did. He would be no more risky, than when we appointed McInnes, albeit the expectations of the fans is now greater than it was 4 years ago. He is actually the only one that jumps out at me just now.

[afc1903mad]

I wrote off Jack Ross when Sunderland were in for McInnes, stating he hadn’t proven himself and was a risk. That is still in my mind, but he has turned St Mirren right around and he would/should be in with a shout. I still see it as a tad risky, but not as much as I once did. He would be no more risky, than when we appointed McInnes, albeit the expectations of the fans is now greater than it was 4 years ago. He is actually the only one that jumps out at me just now.

As I pointed out above, Graham Potter / Billy Reid have equally showed advancement in their clubs and have taken their current team from the fourth tier into the group stages of Europa League

[WatsonNimrod]

I cannot believe that some folk think getting rid of McInnes would be a positive step.

Its not just about McInnes the manager, its a combination of him as a person, the success and the subsequent benefits of that, his attention to detail behind the scenes and the winning mentality and a real sense of purpose in all departments at the football club he has developed.

Its perhaps by accident that McInnes came at a time when Rangers and their successors were weak, but its the responsibility of Aberdeen Football Club to ensure that it can have no part in their revival because there is more at stake here. Lose him and appoint another dud and there is more to loose than league positions.

Ticket sales are up, sales in the shop are astronomical compared to a few years ago, kids are back at todders in huge numbers, community engagement (which remember costs money) is up and the most important of all the support for the blue filth is at an all time low in the North East. No kids or their gullible parents buying their merchandise as its back to the old thing of no one wanting to be associated with failure.

Give that filthy corrupt organisation the chance to flourish and it could have amazingly disastrous consequences.

Its refreshing that my second son is growing up in a more or less hun free environment at school. Roll back a few years and it wasn't the case. With even more choices for kids these days a potentially strong filth would be a disaster for the potential future generations of potential dandies.

Its a pivotal moment in Scottish football and given everything that's happened in the last few years hand back momentum to that nest of vipers and we might as well all pack up and head to Spain Park of a Saturday.

[kb_don]

Secondly, if he doesn't take it, he will likely never get another opportunity

If he turned them down now, he might feel it's his once chance to manage them as they might not go back to him if he knocks them back

It seems like he turned them down 6 months ago. He can turn them down now if he wants. He'll probably have the opportunity again in 6 months when the next unfortunate gets his jotters.

Now's not the time for any half-decent manager to take that job. They've a dodgy crook in charge, and are miles behind celtic in terms of players and money.
Not saying McInness won't take the job in the future, but he'll probably wait until sevco are in better shape

[Mason89]

He won’t get offered if they’re in a better shape

[afc1903mad]

I cannot believe that some folk think getting rid of McInnes would be a positive step.

Indeed, I've lost count of the number of players that have publicly backed McInnes and the reason for them joining / extending etc.
He will move on at some point I have no doubt, but when he does, it will be a hard thing to replace his man management skills.

[abz075]

Looks like Pedro came to the "end of his cycle" before the Aberdeen team did ... that was one of his random proclamations lapped up by the West Coast Scottish Media.