Jimmy Thelin

[KincorthDon]

My expectations are that a properly functioning well ran Aberdeen FC should be best placed to hoover up anything not won by the @rse cheeks. Qualifying for Europe should be the absolute minimum & I?d accept the odd season in the bottom six if there?s an obvious rebuild going on. I don?t think any of that is unreasonable.

The problem we have which can?t be fixed in my opinion is that we rightly wouldnt accept some of the shyte that other teams in the league are happy to. We cant afford to sign players that will make a consistent difference though. We will never be able to spend the money to be noticeably better than the shyte.

It was at St. Mirren I had this revelation so I?ll use them as an example. We wouldn?t accept Alex Gogic at AFC as we all know he?s pish. When they play us though he always plays like Franco Baresi while their triple barrel surnamed striker scores his only goal of the season against us to win. It?s infuriating. How many no mark Motherwell players down the years have turned into wonder players for 90mins?

We?ll continue to turn up in large numbers & other teams will know our players can?t handle it. We?re stuck in a shyte Goldilocks zone that we will never get out. Nothing will ever change. COYR!

Wouldn?t be against a player like Gogic in our midfield - not him but a player who works hard and can break things down, sit defensively and not afraid of physical contact. Also big and strong enough to win headers
There has to be players out there who could play that role for us in certain games when not all about playing tippy happy football
I like Polvara but he doesn?t have the physicality to play in a defensive role for me

[rico94]

My expectations are that a properly functioning well ran Aberdeen FC should be best placed to hoover up anything not won by the @rse cheeks. Qualifying for Europe should be the absolute minimum & I?d accept the odd season in the bottom six if there?s an obvious rebuild going on. I don?t think any of that is unreasonable.

The problem we have which can?t be fixed in my opinion is that we rightly wouldnt accept some of the shyte that other teams in the league are happy to. We cant afford to sign players that will make a consistent difference though. We will never be able to spend the money to be noticeably better than the shyte.

It was at St. Mirren I had this revelation so I?ll use them as an example. We wouldn?t accept Alex Gogic at AFC as we all know he?s pish. When they play us though he always plays like Franco Baresi while their triple barrel surnamed striker scores his only goal of the season against us to win. It?s infuriating. How many no mark Motherwell players down the years have turned into wonder players for 90mins?

We?ll continue to turn up in large numbers & other teams will know our players can?t handle it. We?re stuck in a shyte Goldilocks zone that we will never get out. Nothing will ever change. COYR!

The guy Mark OHara at St Mirren usually plays well against us but you just know that if we signed him he would be horrendous for us.

We have signed a fair few players who seem to play brilliant against us but end up being shyte when we sign them.

Curtis Main JET and Greg Stewart spring to mind.

[Don Julio]

I think Mason is largely right. We pay slightly better than most, but not enough to go with the expectations and pressure. So we?re a target for others to show what they can do and we struggle as we don?t have the tink?s quality.

But maybe the player trading model can get us out of that trap if we can get into Europe each season and generate enough cash?

Deluded I?m sure but a hope for the new year!

[TheDeeDon]

Tom English was apparently on the radio saying Jimmy is fed up with some of his players.

I didn't hear it myself and only going from what I read on Twitter.

Be interesting to know which ones. I have no doubt there is more than an element of truth to it.

[swaddon2]

I see Jimmy is saying that he hopes to take the Dons into Europe next season.

Maybe start with teaching the players the basics of football first before we look at getting the passports out, eh?

[TheDeeDon]

I see Jimmy is saying that he hopes to take the Dons into Europe next season.

Maybe start with teaching the players the basics of football first before we look at getting the passports out, eh?

He isn't going to say he hopes to take us into the Championship.

We'll come good again min.

[Teckle83]

Jim goodwin won 9 in 23 Jim Thelin won 10 in 24...where is the lesson learned

[RED_JOHN]

I am far from convinced he is of any use whatsoever.
When under pressure he has continually struggled using the same formation and in the large used the same players. Changes only started to happen through injuries as his hand was forced.
I generally think we can?t keep sacking managers without upstairs from them also clearing their desks as the incompetence starts from the top.
Should we give him the rest of the transfer window?we are in an extremely difficult position as no replacement will be lined up and everything would have to be done ultra quick so a new boss could get some players in they want.
Thelin will get the rest of the transfer window but in all probability he needs a miracle signing or two to stay alive in this job.
The vultures are circling and quite rightly so. The signs and noises at Aberdeen FC are strong but not in the way of backing this incumbent manager.
Thelin comes across as a nice humble guy but I look at results and style of play etc to decipher if a manager is worth his salt. Thelin is the equivalent of Dave Cormack?s other previous choices and no one can convince me otherwise.

[The_Moog]

He isn't going to say he hopes to take us into the Championship.

We'll come good again min.

Im sure we will, but as I said elsewhere Thelin really needs to wise up a bit on his approach.

Apparently Robinson post match said they had been playing 3-4-3 but went 5-3-2 to undo our central defence.

So thats twice now they have masterminded our downfall, with a made-to-match gameplan.

Thelin, despite all the evidence from the last saints game, picks Rubezic to go up against Olusanya again. Im sorry, but theres no universe where I will ever understand that decision.

Thelin rarely if ever does the made-to-match approach. A football philosophy is fine, but youve got to be pragmatic and realistic at the same time. If you dont have the players for your preferred style, youve simply got to adjust. He hasnt.

[TheDeeDon]

Im sure we will, but as I said elsewhere Thelin really needs to wise up a bit on his approach.

Apparently Robinson post match said they had been playing 3-4-3 but went 5-3-2 to undo our central defence.

So thats twice now they have masterminded our downfall, with a made-to-match gameplan.

Thelin, despite all the evidence from the last saints game, picks Rubezic to go up against Olusanya again. Im sorry, but theres no universe where I will ever understand that decision.

Thelin rarely if ever does the made-to-match approach. A football philosophy is fine, but youve got to be pragmatic and realistic at the same time. If you dont have the players for your preferred style, youve simply got to adjust. He hasnt.

I couldn't agree more.

The most bothersome thing about yesterday for me, was seeing a very average SPL manager get the better of him so easily.

We can stick our noses up and the air and call St Mirren all the anti footballing names we want (and they are), but doesn't detract from the fact they bossed us easily in our own ground yesterday and didn't have to do very much to get the three points.

It doesn't matter how much faith we have in Thelin, if results don't turn soon he is either picking up his P45 or more likley, going to quit to save his reputation.

We have Jimmy and the boy at St Johnstone both coming in to the SPL and trying to implement a style of play that is alien to the Scottish league and both are struggling at the moment.

It would be sad to see us ditch Jimmy and go down the road of a Robinson style manager.

[Mason89]

This is what I?m on about being in the this shyte Goldilocks zone

Robinson would undoubtedly finish above the pish in our league given the budget. Just like McHunnis & Calderwood did before

Would I want him at Aberdeen? Not a f*cking chance

[rico94]

I couldn't agree more.

The most bothersome thing about yesterday for me, was seeing a very average SPL manager get the better of him so easily.

We can stick our noses up and the air and call St Mirren all the anti footballing names we want (and they are), but doesn't detract from the fact they bossed us easily in our own ground yesterday and didn't have to do very much to get the three points.

It doesn't matter how much faith we have in Thelin, if results don't turn soon he is either picking up his P45 or more likley, going to quit to save his reputation.

We have Jimmy and the boy at St Johnstone both coming in to the SPL and trying to implement a style of play that is alien to the Scottish league and both are struggling at the moment.

It would be sad to see us ditch Jimmy and go down the road of a Robinson style manager.

I think you mentioned on another thread about who we could get in if Thelin was to go.

Maybe you were joking but if Thelin ends up being the 4th manager to not last more than a year for the 4th year in a row I think we are going to struggle to get anyone decent in.

Managers in a job will look at whats gone on in the last 5 years and think its not worth the risk taking the job because there is an extremely high chance that they wont last a year.

You then have your out of work managers in the spfl merry go round as the only ones willing to take the job.

I really hope Thelin manages to turn this around like he did at his previous clubs but he needs to start winning games soon.

[KincorthDon]

This is what I?m on about being in the this shyte Goldilocks zone

Robinson would undoubtedly finish above the pish in our league given the budget. Just like McHunnis & Calderwood did before

Would I want him at Aberdeen? Not a f*cking chance

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If this appointment doesn?t work out and we do go back down the route of a proven manager in this league that plays pish football but gets results because the players bought are marginally better than the other teams outside the cheeks then for me I will find it harder to give a ****.
Was bored rigid last year of McInnes reign and less said about Goodwin / Robson the better.
The problem is as Mason and others have pointed out is philosophy is fine, but when it isn?t working you need to change it.

Simple ball behind the full backs that are high up the pitch and we are struggling. Or just kick it straight down the middle ?.
The game that really irritated me was Kilmarnock away when first 20 minutes just had to make it tight and grow into the game as our poor run was stretching then.
But no, same formation, players out of position and caught on counter early doors
Heads go down and ship 3 more
Last Scandinavian coach insisted on playing 4-3-3 - as much as I liked Ebbe it didn?t work well to be so rigid in formation
I just hope Peter Leven is telling Jimmy to reassess his ?philosophy ?

[TheDeeDon]

I think you mentioned on another thread about who we could get in if Thelin was to go.

Maybe you were joking but if Thelin ends up being the 4th manager to not last more than a year for the 4th year in a row I think we are going to struggle to get anyone decent in.

Managers in a job will look at whats gone on in the last 5 years and think its not worth the risk taking the job because there is an extremely high chance that they wont last a year.

You then have your out of work managers in the spfl merry go round as the only ones willing to take the job.

I really hope Thelin manages to turn this around like he did at his previous clubs but he needs to start winning games soon.

I think what you are referring too is a reply to a RJ post about getting shot of Thelin.

What I said was I don't want Thelin gone as we end up with a Robinson type manager who gets found out in a short while.

The St Mirren fans probably loved that game yesterday, but imagine watching a team as shyte as that week after week. No thanks.

We haven't won in the league for nearly three months and yet still only two points off third. Which highlights the standard of our league and why I don't want a Robinson type appointment anytime soon.

I really hope that our form turns and turns soon as the season is still very salvageable.

[RED_JOHN]

At what point to we decide to ditch Thelin?

Do we give him 2 more matches and then decide he isn?t worth continuing with or do we wait until the end of the season and hope he can somehow change the disaster happening in front of our eyes.

2 more matches is more than enough and I am being extremely generous. There is nothing I see on that pitch with that squad and tactics that makes me think it?s worth waiting as things are improving. It?s the opposite as we are getting more easily beaten as the weeks go by.