Aberdeen v Livingston

[TheDeeDon]

I think a lot of our players struggle with the physical side to Scottish football, Im not an expert on Scandinavian football but I would imagine that they would get a lot more time and space than they do in Scotland.

I read Sven Goran Eriksons autobiography last year, before JT was appointed and he speaks about the very poor standard of Swedish football and the standard of player in their leagues.

Young players are cherry picked to go abroad at a young age, leaving very little quality and a poor overall standard, filled out by players from nations around them.

I reckon Karlsson is a talent, but alarm bells are ringing with others in our team squad.

I'm not saying they are particularly poor players, but they do appear to struggle with the pace of our game and has been apparent throughout a lot of our games this season and last.
They wouldn't be the first players to stuggle with our game.

Watched that Livi team yesterday, put together for next to nothing by Martindale and they looked far more organised and did more pressing and chasing down second balls than most of our team did. That is the hard part to swallow.

I wouldn't have any Livi players in our squad, but we really should be seeing more of a return on the pitch for what we are spending.

Ach, I'm f*cked if I ken.

[The_Moog]

That wont be helping him either but he really struggles with the physical side to our game.

He seemed to do well for Helsinki and looked promising for Finland in the u21 tournament during the summer.

I think a lot of our players struggle with the physical side to Scottish football, Im not an expert on Scandinavian football but I would imagine that they would get a lot more time and space than they do in Scotland.

Having ruminated on things overnight I think this is the crux of our problem.

Our Swedish manager has put together a team ideally suited to Swedish football & wholly unsuited to the Scottish game.

We absolutely lack size & physicality. Unless you have players clearly a cut above the rest - like the Tims - this just wont cut it in this league.

We?re far too slow & ponderous, this is a quick league, we need to move the ball much quicker.

This inverted winger stuff just doesnt work either.

Weve got players, theyre either just not right for this league (Jensen, Nilsson, Keskinen, Molloy) or not being used effectively for this league.

Jimmy T seriously needs to wise up here or he will be out on his arse because this run of results is completely unacceptable.

[OneBrianIrvine]

All good points on suitability players for this league. I was amazed at how slight Karlsson was, like a stiff breeze would bowl him over - thought he almost looked unwell.

My father also made the point yesterday that we’d taken in too many ‘pedigreed’ players who’d lost their way in the hopes of revising them and turning a profit. As he said there’s a reason they’ve lost their way…

Hate that I’m starting to have serious concerns about JT but his inflexibility will be his undoing IMO.

[rico94]

Having ruminated on things overnight I think this is the crux of our problem.

Our Swedish manager has put together a team ideally suited to Swedish football & wholly unsuited to the Scottish game.

We absolutely lack size & physicality. Unless you have players clearly a cut above the rest - like the Tims - this just wont cut it in this league.

We?re far too slow & ponderous, this is a quick league, we need to move the ball much quicker.

This inverted winger stuff just doesnt work either.

Weve got players, theyre either just not right for this league (Jensen, Nilsson, Keskinen, Molloy) or not being used effectively for this league.

Jimmy T seriously needs to wise up here or he will be out on his arse because this run of results is completely unacceptable.

I will be honest and admit that I had my doubts about us appointing Jimmy Thelin purely because there has been no club in Scotland outwith the cheeks where a foreign coach has been successful, maybe Im wrong there but I cant think of one?

But after the start he made I was fully on board with the appointment, even after the dreadful run I still backed him and thought he would get it right after bringing in more of his own players this summer.I hope he still turns it around but the signs so far look like we are going to struggle because of teams having worked out how to set up against us and him being too stubborn to change his style and system.

I dont blame the club for going with a foreign coach because there was a huge section of our support who wanted to go down that route instead of the usual Scottish merry go round of managers, I can see us having to go down that route if things dont improve very quickly for us and Thelin.

[blowupsheep]

Neil Lennon seems to be doing a decent job at Dunfermline.

Just saying ............. 😉

[TheDeeDon]

Neil Lennon seems to be doing a decent job at Dunfermline.

Just saying ............. 😉

Please don't.

You know and we know it isn't happening.

[blowupsheep]

Please don't.

You know and we know it isn't happening.

cmon now DD pal, we could do a lot worse than Lennon

[blowupsheep]

I have just watched some re-run of the game (cant call it highlights) so will call it a "re-run"
Just how awful was that miss from Aouchiche early on and then another pathetic miss by Jensen a wee bit later, both of these chances were set up by Nisbet, I just wish to fk that there is somebody capable of setting up chances for Nisbet because for sure 100% if both thee chances had fallen to Nisbet we would have been 2 up and cruising.
Karlsson's miss was not as bad as it first looked, it was a class first touch, but fk me Aberdeen we should be doing better with these chances.
Sort it out before it is too late ffs

[rico94]

I have just watched some re-run of the game (cant call it highlights) so will call it a "re-run"
Just how awful was that miss from Aouchiche early on and then another pathetic miss by Jensen a wee bit later, both of these chances were set up by Nisbet, I just wish to fk that there is somebody capable of setting up chances for Nisbet because for sure 100% if both thee chances had fallen to Nisbet we would have been 2 up and cruising.
Karlsson's miss was not as bad as it first looked, it was a class first touch, but fk me Aberdeen we should be doing better with these chances.
Sort it out before it is too late ffs

The keeper actually saved Jensens shot and the referee bizarrely gave them a goal kick. Their keeper was pissing himself laughing at the decision because it was obvious to everyone else that he saved the shot.

[rico94]

Also Nisbet was set up by Karlsson in the first half and he missed as well

[blowupsheep]

Also Nisbet was set up by Karlsson in the first half and he missed as well

Maybe so, but Nisbet's miss was not as poor as the first two.
As for the Jensen miss
There is no way he should be letting any fcukin keeper get a touch on his shot from there. That should have been blasted past any keeper and ripping a hole in the net.

The french dudes miss was nae much better.

I am sure the goals will come eventually but in the meantime we cannot continue to pass them up like we are doing when they do come

Thats all i am saying and we need Nisbet on the end of most of them chances instead of being provider as he will score more than he misses.

[TheDeeDon]

Maybe so, but Nisbet's miss was not as poor as the first two.
As for the Jensen miss
There is no way he should be letting any fcukin keeper get a touch on his shot from there. That should have been blasted past any keeper and ripping a hole in the net.

The french dudes miss was nae much better.

I am sure the goals will come eventually but in the meantime we cannot continue to pass them up like we are doing when they do come

Thats all i am saying and we need Nisbet on the end of most of them chances instead of being provider as he will score more than he misses.

Just watched the highlights. Jensens shot, I don't think he got a great shot away. Ball looks a little behind him.

We might not have scored, but we certainly played some good stuff to get chances, which we didn't take.

That touch from Karlsson to tee himself up for the shot he put into the side net, was footballing p*rn.

[rico94]

Maybe so, but Nisbet's miss was not as poor as the first two.
As for the Jensen miss
There is no way he should be letting any fcukin keeper get a touch on his shot from there. That should have been blasted past any keeper and ripping a hole in the net.

The french dudes miss was nae much better.

I am sure the goals will come eventually but in the meantime we cannot continue to pass them up like we are doing when they do come

Thats all i am saying and we need Nisbet on the end of most of them chances instead of being provider as he will score more than he misses.

Nisbet was about 2 yards from goal and didnt hit the target.

I would say his miss was worse than the other two.

[blowupsheep]

Nisbet was about 2 yards from goal and didnt hit the target.

I would say his miss was worse than the other two.

As DeeDon has said above.
We are creating chances which has to be looked at positively.

Nisbet will score more chances than he will miss this season, I think we all know that.

[OneBrianIrvine]

As DeeDon has said above.
We are creating chances which has to be looked at positively.

Nisbet will score more chances than he will miss this season, I think we all know that.

Just a pity he's not playing off another. I don't see him as a lone forward, stretching defences or holding the ball up etc but like you confident he'll score plenty if given the chance. I also enjoy watching him, he surprises me sometimes with his skill.

Football is so changed now though - I can't think of any 'striking duos'?

It's a pity we never got him sooner, I'm not saying Yengi will ever be a world beater but the perception he was our main man heaped pressure on the guy from the start. If he'd looked like 'an option' he might have been cut more slack. A real entitled element is growing in our support. People getting booed as they are subbed off is really winding me up, boo the team if you must but not individuals mid ganme.