Not fit to wear the shirt

[ballcock]

Foster, Florentino, Laursen and Hartman aren't fit to wear the shirt, they give minimum effort and are not good enough.

[ballcock]

Add Tchaouna to that list he is another

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Whoever thought paying around 7/8 million quid for Hartman really is soft in the head.

[army88]

Whoever thought paying around 7/8 million quid for Hartman really is soft in the head.

He?s better than Pires - end off discussion

[wmdave_b]

Isn?t Hartman currently second choice left back for a good Holland team?
Personally I think motivation is his problem, doesn?t look like he wants to be with us, and he is not on his own.
Larsen falls into another category, simply not good enough to be wearing the shirt.
Not sure where to place the others on Ballcocks list. I think motivation, coaching, and system are bigger issues than the players tbh.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

He?s better than Pires - end off discussion

At least Pires tries, Hartman seriously does not give a $hit.

[ballcock]

Isn?t Hartman currently second choice left back for a good Holland team?
Personally I think motivation is his problem, doesn?t look like he wants to be with us, and he is not on his own.
Larsen falls into another category, simply not good enough to be wearing the shirt.
Not sure where to place the others on Ballcocks list. I think motivation, coaching, and system are bigger issues than the players tbh.

If you haven't got self motivation you should not be playing professional sport at any level.
Hartman doesn't look interested and the i others mentioned aren't good enough or lazy as in Fosters case

[ballcock]

At least Pires tries, Hartman seriously does not give a $hit.

Exactly.

A lack of ability and puts in loads of effort I understand and won't be over critical, but a bad attitude and being lazy is no excuse

[army88]

Would you ? Your in your out same for Loum scores a worldy actually showed he does have ability in a game and is dropped again the next fixture.


My comment was he?s simply a better footballer than Pires - who is also like our manager out of his depth at this level - Hartman needs motivation I get that and I?d have kicked him myself in the Fulham game if I?d played in the game.

However Mr Parker is paid to sort that out not just freeze him out and play his mates when they aren?t up to the job.

I posted before that it?s a rudderless ship and I?ve played in teams where some just give up ( not acceptable granted on 30-50k a week ).

It?s a disease the rot has set in and Parker?s at the helm I?m afraid - it?s not healthy and it hasn?t been for months we?ve been debating players picking themselves not contributing- forwards at left wing midfielders at centre back.

The manger has royally messed it up he?s refused to play players - subbed them for half a season who are clearly better than starters and sadly he needs to be man admit defeat and do one.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Would you ? Your in your out same for Loum scores a worldy actually showed he does have ability in a game and is dropped again the next fixture.


My comment was he?s simply a better footballer than Pires - who is also like our manager out of his depth at this level - Hartman needs motivation I get that and I?d have kicked him myself in the Fulham game if I?d played in the game.

However Mr Parker is paid to sort that out not just freeze him out and play his mates when they aren?t up to the job.

I posted before that it?s a rudderless ship and I?ve played in teams where some just give up ( not acceptable granted on 30-50k a week ).

It?s a disease the rot has set in and Parker?s at the helm I?m afraid - it?s not healthy and it hasn?t been for months we?ve been debating players picking themselves not contributing- forwards at left wing midfielders at centre back.

The manger has royally messed it up he?s refused to play players - subbed them for half a season who are clearly better than starters and sadly he needs to be man admit defeat and do one.

I've started drinking copious amounts of black coffee and giving my head a series of serious wobbles because I just cannot understand what Parker is trying to do.

He's a mystery wrapped inside an enigma for me and Pace needs to sack his sorry arse. NOW!

[sinkov]

I've started drinking copious amounts of black coffee and giving my head a series of serious wobbles because I just cannot understand what Parker is trying to do.

He's a mystery wrapped inside an enigma for me and Pace needs to sack his sorry arse. NOW!

I've reached the sorry state after Mansfield where I don't give a FF anymore, they can sack Parker or keep him, they can win, lose or draw, I don't care, it won't impinge on my life much at all. I'm still a Burnley fan, always will be till the day I die, but I'm very much a disinterested one now. About the only thing I can envisage getting me agitated from now on is watching our Yankee owners taking a wrecking ball to our club.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I've reached the sorry state after Mansfield where I don't give a FF anymore, they can sack Parker or keep him, they can win, lose or draw, I don't care, it won't impinge on my life much at all. I'm still a Burnley fan, always will be till the day I die, but I'm very much a disinterested one now. About the only thing I can envisage getting me agitated from now on is watching our Yankee owners taking a wrecking ball to our club.

Sadly, you are not alone with these sentiments mon ami.

[claw84]

Hi BT, sounds like you are not enjoying your time in the upper league, never mind you know how good the championship is where any team can beat any other and no var.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Hi BT, sounds like you are not enjoying your time in the upper league, never mind you know how good the championship is where any team can beat any other and no var.

Our manager is clueless at this level claw84. VAR, the referees, the cheating and diving makes me seriously wonder why every Championship team fights to get there. Stupid kick-off times for all games on TV, uneven playing squads because of money, I pfhucking hate it.

[Supersub6]

I've reached the sorry state after Mansfield where I don't give a FF anymore, they can sack Parker or keep him, they can win, lose or draw, I don't care, it won't impinge on my life much at all. I'm still a Burnley fan, always will be till the day I die, but I'm very much a disinterested one now. About the only thing I can envisage getting me agitated from now on is watching our Yankee owners taking a wrecking ball to our club.

I have been like that since the takeover took place. Nothing seemed right about it to me and I haven't changed my mind since then.