V Chelsea

[ballcock]

Tarky
Mee
Collins
Ings
Rodriguez
Trippier
Bamford
Mcneil ( regardless of moaning scousers )
Charlie Austin
Vydra
Weghorst
Maatsen
Tella
Assignon
Berge
Odobert
Amdouni

None of the above players improved bar Rodriguez and Maatsen who where kids when they left.
You are grasping at straws with the likes of Bamford, Weghorst, Assignon, Vydra and Amdouni they hardly kicked a ball in anger and have gone on to do nothing playing in farmers leagues.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

It all comes down to a dose of natural talent and how bad each individual player wants it.

[ClaretinBudapest]

None of the above players improved bar Rodriguez and Maatsen who where kids when they left.
You are grasping at straws with the likes of Bamford, Weghorst, Assignon, Vydra and Amdouni they hardly kicked a ball in anger and have gone on to do nothing playing in farmers leagues.

I think we can say that Trippier improved after leaving us BC.

[mnrht]

Amdouni and Weghorst were playing in "farmer's leagues". Come on BC, let's be fair.

[ballcock]

I think we can say that Trippier improved after leaving us BC.

Agree 👍

[ballcock]

Amdouni and Weghorst were playing in "farmer's leagues". Come on BC, let's be fair.

They couldn't make it in the big lads league. How many Premier league goals have they scored

[warminsterclaret]

Who got this score right?

Me!

[mnrht]

Didn't Amdouni and Weghorst play for their countries after being discarded by BFC?

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Didn't Amdouni and Weghorst play for their countries after being discarded by BFC?

Amdouni has never been "discarded" by Burnley Football Club. His ambition supersedes his talent but he remains a Burnley player.

[WillPark]

Wood is another one. He ?peaked? after leaving Burnley. As it turned out no one in Burnley had explained the offside rule to him? we just shouted abuse at him or perhaps no one in Burnley were able to time their passen to his runs. No he was more or less constantly offside
On McNeil? didn?t he both score and assist in his first couple of games? Might have been pre season, but nevertheless I remember him having a flying start at Everton.

[WillPark]

army, you have to remember though that Burnley fans never give their players stick. They are all up in arms because the Chairman has criticised them for doing so and they all swear that they have never given any player any stick at any time.

I see now on several social media posts that we fans have the right to express ourselves since we pay, and the abuse only started after the window closed.
I also have a kid that I support. And I too feel the right to express myself if he don?t do as I expect. I don?t abuse him though, and if anyone thinks that abuse is the best way to get others to be their best, then I can just inform you that you are mistaken. Abuse is simply not support.

[Supersub6]

I see now on several social media posts that we fans have the right to express ourselves since we pay, and the abuse only started after the window closed.
I also have a kid that I support. And I too feel the right to express myself if he don?t do as I expect. I don?t abuse him though, and if anyone thinks that abuse is the best way to get others to be their best, then I can just inform you that you are mistaken. Abuse is simply not support.

Not sure what you are getting at. I have been going on the Turf since 1952 and have NEVER shouted abuse at any player, Claret or opponent, because it is totally unnecessary.
All I was doing was pointing out that the Chairman is correct because it has always been the case that some fans will pick out a player and he becomes a scapegoat. In recent times, Marney, Hendrick and McNeil have received their fair share of abuse ---- there have been so many more over the last 74 years. Marney's first season here was ridiculous because so many fans didn't realise just what a good player he was and it only became apparent the season that he picked up the injury.

Support is what is needed, certainly not abuse!

[outwoodclaret]

Not sure what you are getting at. I have been going on the Turf since 1952 and have NEVER shouted abuse at any player, Claret or opponent, because it is totally unnecessary.
All I was doing was pointing out that the Chairman is correct because it has always been the case that some fans will pick out a player and he becomes a scapegoat. In recent times, Marney, Hendrick and McNeil have received their fair share of abuse ---- there have been so many more over the last 74 years. Marney's first season here was ridiculous because so many fans didn't realise just what a good player he was and it only became apparent the season that he picked up the injury.

Support is what is needed, certainly not abuse!

There have been and always will be boo-boys at BFC and practically every other club. The ire of fans when results are poor will usually be directed at the Board/the manager/some of the players. I am like you Supersub in emphasising the support in the word supporter but we all have our own criticisms of the way a club is owned or managed or indeed the shortcomings of individual players. For instance imo Scott Parker has achieved better PL results with Burnley than his predecessor Vincent Kompany with a squad that many have said is inferior to the one VK managed. Suffice to say that there have been plenty of comments that Scott is a Championship manager at best and totally out of his depth in the EPL. VK had the great fortune to depart Burnley for the splendours of Bayern Munich where he immediately led them to a Bundesliga title. Fine margins as they say.

[army88]

None of the above players improved bar Rodriguez and Maatsen who where kids when they left.
You are grasping at straws with the likes of Bamford, Weghorst, Assignon, Vydra and Amdouni they hardly kicked a ball in anger and have gone on to do nothing playing in farmers leagues.

All of those players improved ballcock Weghorst who I said was wasted here scored on the World Cup Amdouni played the champions league and scored for Bemfica ( but I was constantly told he?s **** here ).

Austin scored lots of goals for QPR -,Ings went to Liverpool and without his injuries would have been amazing - Tripier ( I shouldn?t even have to say anything )

Bamford was one of the biggest mistakes for me he had brilliant balance vision and could beat a man not touching the ball ( he had a good career at top level though )

The others are plying their trade in or have been so must be improving or clubs wouldn?t have bought them when we were relegated

Much as I don?t like to do it I will criticise some players however I always say ( and you can check back ) that to even reach the level of football they?re at you have to be special and have something more than I / you ever had anyway or we?d have been doing it.

As for Outwood?s VK comment I?d say he was one of the best centre backs in the world and had a clear vision of how he wanted to play football - we benefited from that in year 1 but failed when we didn?t have the players to deliver his vision at the highest level.

Once again he was **** on here , but one of the biggest clubs in world football thought he could apply his ideas with better players took a chance - the best is history as they say ( we also got 10 million file our troubles ).

It?s just opinions of course football - the problem we have at Burnley is getting players that can do what we?ll want fit a third of the money elsewhere- the premier league has improved and is still improving year on year - competing is a problem.

My thing is it hasn?t changed in all the 50 years or so I?ve watched from a kid - we find gems but eventually the bigger clubs take them - but I always think those who are with us are here for a reason if our forward scored 15 goals at this level a team would take him because that?s how it is.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

The simple truth is football fans pay their money to watch their team and if they don't feel as a collective they are getting value for money the $hit hits the fan.

I was at the London Stadium when we ripped the Irons a new arse and if Pace thinks the fans are toxic at Turf Moor he should have been in Stratford on that particular day.

Supersub6 will confirm when things are not going well for the Toon their fans are not exactly what you might call "understanding".

It is what it is. We pay our money and can express our happiness or despair however we want.