Political Thread in memory of David Reid. (R.I.P.)

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I doubt it could deal with the joint forces of Israel and the US, and the Mad Mullahs know this, so not being completely mad, I would think their response to Israel will be very carefully calibrated, falling well short of all out war. Turkeys don't vote for Christmas.

I was wearing my Iranian General's tin hat mon ami to try and understand how we could attack Israel. Unless we attempt to nuke Tel Aviv I don't see how we could get anywhere near to attacking the Jews in Palestine.

I thought about a land invasion via Syria but gave up and asked the wife what we were having for tea.

Israel is as safe as houses and that's why they can steal land and kill and rape the Palestinians with total impunity.

[sinkov]

I was wearing my Iranian General's tin hat mon ami to try and understand how we could attack Israel. Unless we attempt to nuke Tel Aviv I don't see how we could get anywhere near to attacking the Jews in Palestine.

I thought about a land invasion via Syria but gave up and asked the wife what we were having for tea.

Israel is as safe as houses and that's why they can steal land and kill and rape the Palestinians with total impunity.

Whereas Hamas are not safe as houses, not that they have many left, but it does not deter them from killing and raping Jews at every opportunity, so it is perfectly sensible and logical for the IDF to attempt to eliminate them as a force in Gaza. It is not the fault of the IDF that the terrorist scum use the innocent citizens of Gaza as human shields.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Whereas Hamas are not safe as houses, not that they have many left, but it does not deter them from killing and raping Jews at every opportunity, so it is perfectly sensible and logical for the IDF to attempt to eliminate them as a force in Gaza. It is not the fault of the IDF that the terrorist scum use the innocent citizens of Gaza as human shields.

I read yesterday the IDF ground troopers use Palestinians as human shields. Whatever happened to the "Rules of Engagement"? It's a horrific state of affairs and the Yanks have just sanctioned another $20 billions worth of armament sales to Israel.

Who was it who once said, "Peace in our lifetime?"

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Whereas Hamas are not safe as houses, not that they have many left, but it does not deter them from killing and raping Jews at every opportunity, so it is perfectly sensible and logical for the IDF to attempt to eliminate them as a force in Gaza. It is not the fault of the IDF that the terrorist scum use the innocent citizens of Gaza as human shields.

"An Israeli military strike in Gaza killed a set of newborn twins along with their mother and grandmother just as the father was registering their births at a local government office.

Mohammed Abu al-Qumsan was getting birth registration certificates made for the twins – a boy, Asser, and a girl, Ayssel – when his neighbours called to inform him that his house in Deir al-Balah had been bombed by the Israelis."

B@stards.

[sinkov]

"An Israeli military strike in Gaza killed a set of newborn twins along with their mother and grandmother just as the father was registering their births at a local government office.

Mohammed Abu al-Qumsan was getting birth registration certificates made for the twins – a boy, Asser, and a girl, Ayssel – when his neighbours called to inform him that his house in Deir al-Balah had been bombed by the Israelis."

B@stards.

Maybe they did, maybe they didn't, truth is the first casualty of war and the Hamas propaganda machine works overtime providing guff for their useful idiots to agonize over.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Maybe they did, maybe they didn't, truth is the first casualty of war and the Hamas propaganda machine works overtime providing guff for their useful idiots to agonize over.

Same reports more or less across every media outlet mon ami and even the Israeli media claims the IDF have now killed 40,000 plus Palestrina although they can't say how many Hamas members are in that mix

[ballcock]

Same reports more or less across every media outlet mon ami and even the Israeli media claims the IDF have now killed 40,000 plus Palestrina although they can't say how many Hamas members are in that mix

At least 99.9%. I would have thought

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Maybe they did, maybe they didn't, truth is the first casualty of war and the Hamas propaganda machine works overtime providing guff for their useful idiots to agonize over.

It's not really a war though is it sinkov? Murdering and starving to death a captive audience who have nowhere else to go is murder plain & simple.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

At least 99.9%. I would have thought

It's reckoned there are about 30,000 Hamas members holed up in Gaza, Israel claims it has killed 10,000, so more than 30,000 innocent civilians at least are deemed as collateral damage. sad innit?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68387864

After ten months of deadly IDF assaults, air strikes, sniper fire, ground invasions, sea invasions, and the use of a yellow submarine at least 20,000 Hamas operatives are still alive and kicking. They really are $hit at playing at soldiers the IDF aren't they? I must concede however, they are fairly decent at killing women & kids and dry bumming male Palestinian prisoners.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Whereas Hamas are not safe as houses, not that they have many left, but it does not deter them from killing and raping Jews at every opportunity, so it is perfectly sensible and logical for the IDF to attempt to eliminate them as a force in Gaza. It is not the fault of the IDF that the terrorist scum use the innocent citizens of Gaza as human shields.

Figures obtained from the Israeli military.
Total deaths:
Palestinians killed in Gaza: at least 40,005
People killed in Israel: about 1,200
Palestinians killed in the West Bank: 623
People killed in Lebanon: around 530
Civilians
Civilians killed in Gaza: Gaza’s health ministry doesn’t distinguish between civilians and combatants in its count but says at least 5,956 women and at least 10,627 children have been killed.
Civilians and foreigners killed in Israel: 860
Children killed in Israel: 53
Civilians killed since Oct. 7 in Israel along its northern border: 24
Civilians killed in Lebanon: 97
Aid workers killed in Gaza: 284
Health workers killed in Gaza: over 500
Journalists and media workers killed: At least 113
Soldiers/Militants
Militants killed by Israel in Gaza: more than 15,000, according to the Israeli military
Israeli soldiers killed in the Gaza ground offensive: 329
Israeli soldiers killed on Oct. 7: 314
Israeli soldiers killed along Israel’s northern front since Oct. 7: 22
Militants killed in Lebanon: 377 from Hezbollah and 54 from allied groups
Destruction/Humanitarian situation in Gaza
Percentage of buildings likely damaged/destroyed: 59.3%
Percentage of homes likely damaged: more than 60%
Percentage of school buildings damaged: 85%
Hospitals that are partially functioning: 16 of 36
Palestinian civilians facing “catastrophic” food insecurity, according to the U.N.: 495,000
Percentage of students out of school: 100%
Percentage of road network damaged: 65%
Cemeteries damaged: At least 21
Injuries
Palestinians injured in Gaza since Oct. 7: 92,401
Palestinians injured in the West Bank since Oct. 7: more than 5,400
Israeli soldiers injured since Oct. 7: 2,206
Israeli civilians injured on Oct. 7: around 4,800
Displacement
Palestinians currently displaced in Gaza: 1.9 million (86% of the prewar population)
Israelis internally displaced from border communities: 62,224 (under 1% of the population)
Hostages/Prisoners
Hostages taken by Hamas-led militants on Oct. 7: 251
Hostages retrieved, released, or rescued: 140
Hostages who are alive or haven’t been confirmed dead: 74, including two who were taken before Oct. 7
Hostages confirmed to have died in Hamas captivity: 41, including two taken before Oct. 7
Palestinian prisoners freed during weeklong pause in fighting: 240

[Swissclaret]

It's not really a war though is it sinkov? Murdering and starving to death a captive audience who have nowhere else to go is murder plain & simple.

Whatever anyone wants to call it, it is a tragedy.

Whilst the left/woke brigade would not call it war, how else would one describe the actions of Hamas/ Palestinians in October 2023 as anything other than a declaration of war against the state of Israel. A small incursion? Freedom fighters trying to liberate their country - not that justifies murder, rape and other atrocities?

In any war, one side can surrender. Hamas could surrender to save its own people from further slaughter. Hamas could agree to a ceasefire and talks to try to resolve the problem. Hamas leaders could come out from behind their own people and give themselves up for the greater good of their people.

They have done none of the above so horribly, the war goes on with the resultant casualties.

Hamas has its part to play in bringing this tragedy to an end. So far they have done nothing to end peacefully what they so aggressively started.

[sinkov]

Figures obtained from the Israeli military.
Total deaths:
Palestinians killed in Gaza: at least 40,005
People killed in Israel: about 1,200
Palestinians killed in the West Bank: 623
People killed in Lebanon: around 530
Civilians
Civilians killed in Gaza: Gaza’s health ministry doesn’t distinguish between civilians and combatants in its count but says at least 5,956 women and at least 10,627 children have been killed.
Civilians and foreigners killed in Israel: 860
Children killed in Israel: 53
Civilians killed since Oct. 7 in Israel along its northern border: 24
Civilians killed in Lebanon: 97
Aid workers killed in Gaza: 284
Health workers killed in Gaza: over 500
Journalists and media workers killed: At least 113
Soldiers/Militants
Militants killed by Israel in Gaza: more than 15,000, according to the Israeli military
Israeli soldiers killed in the Gaza ground offensive: 329
Israeli soldiers killed on Oct. 7: 314
Israeli soldiers killed along Israel’s northern front since Oct. 7: 22
Militants killed in Lebanon: 377 from Hezbollah and 54 from allied groups
Destruction/Humanitarian situation in Gaza
Percentage of buildings likely damaged/destroyed: 59.3%
Percentage of homes likely damaged: more than 60%
Percentage of school buildings damaged: 85%
Hospitals that are partially functioning: 16 of 36
Palestinian civilians facing “catastrophic” food insecurity, according to the U.N.: 495,000
Percentage of students out of school: 100%
Percentage of road network damaged: 65%
Cemeteries damaged: At least 21
Injuries
Palestinians injured in Gaza since Oct. 7: 92,401
Palestinians injured in the West Bank since Oct. 7: more than 5,400
Israeli soldiers injured since Oct. 7: 2,206
Israeli civilians injured on Oct. 7: around 4,800
Displacement
Palestinians currently displaced in Gaza: 1.9 million (86% of the prewar population)
Israelis internally displaced from border communities: 62,224 (under 1% of the population)
Hostages/Prisoners
Hostages taken by Hamas-led militants on Oct. 7: 251
Hostages retrieved, released, or rescued: 140
Hostages who are alive or haven’t been confirmed dead: 74, including two who were taken before Oct. 7
Hostages confirmed to have died in Hamas captivity: 41, including two taken before Oct. 7
Palestinian prisoners freed during weeklong pause in fighting: 240

Seems very much like a war to me mon ami. A war which the terrorist scum are getting ever closer to losing. Their huge stockpile of weaponry and ammunition is starting to run low, and the IDF is ensuring that nothing more is getting through to them. It's just a matter of time.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Seems very much like a war to me mon ami. A war which the terrorist scum are getting ever closer to losing. Their huge stockpile of weaponry and ammunition is starting to run low, and the IDF is ensuring that nothing more is getting through to them. It's just a matter of time.

The IDF for all of their technology had no idea about the extent of the Hamas tunnelling, nor did they know about the October 7th attack. I would not be at all surprised if Hamas have an underground stockpile of weapons and cache of ammo. One of the US military's top brass this week said he thinks it "unlikely" the Jews can beat Hamas in Gaza, meanwhile the "Duck Shoot in a Barrel" of murdering Palestinian Arabs, journalists and hospital staff goes on unabated.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

16.08.2024: Israeli settlers attacked a Palestinian village in the occupied West Bank on Thursday, killing a man and burning homes and cars, local authorities said.

The Israelis, many of them masked, allegedly stormed the village of Jit near Qalqilya city in what was only the latest of a series of attacks by violent settlers in the occupied region.

B@stards!

[sinkov]

"David Lammy travelling to Israel ‘to use every diplomatic lever to end war".

Jesus feckin wept, what has the Middle East done to deserve this ?

Life under Labour.