Political Thread in memory of David Reid. (R.I.P.)

[Supersub6]

Objecting to genocide and ethnic cleansing should not be a criminal offence. Only Friends of Israel and people who abhor Muslims are against being a supporter of the rights of Palestinians to live in peace in their own land.

Condescending, patronising quote of the day is awarded to Supersub6 for the comment, "these silly old people wandering around wearing things saying that they support Palestine Action". These silly old people have earned the right to protest but Starmer has taken that away from them. Thin end of the wedge and all that.

THank you for the award BT. Bottom line is that they were breaking the law and are old enough to know that ---they have earned the right and can't plead ignorance of the law ---hence silly old people who should have more sense.
As far as Starmer taking things away from them. How big a majority does Labour hold?
It is these same people who voted him into power and the majority will also have voted for Brexit.
Have they achieved their objective ----whatever that is? Answers on a first class stamp if you can buy one these days.

[outwoodclaret]

You totally missed a racist endeavour Sir Outwood, selective myopia can become a problem. I'm not at all certain even Specsavers can solve that one.

I know people who were there BT and they aren’t racists. The crowds were way more than the 120,000 reported. There are always going to be a minority of troublemakers but there has been far more violence at other public events in London than occurred yesterday. Media didn’t mention that. The protests are as much about Starmer now and his utterly flatulent Government.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Me and sinkov admittedly for different reasons, both said Starmer becoming Prime Minister would turn out to be a Rocky Horror Show. We were right.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Since taking office, Sir Kid Starver has been instrumental in failing to formally recognise the state of Palestine or listen to calls to stop British arms sales to Israel, erstwhile facilitating its genocidal assault on Gaza.

He personally enables the enduring barbaric attacks on Gaza, which have generated the largest orphan crisis in modern history alongside the highest global number of child amputees and has put 93 percent of the 1.1 million children living there at acute risk of famine.

What a guy!

[outwoodclaret]

They shall not have our flag! Well said Sir Keir. You have so pugnaciously defended our borders. Your 50 in:50 out deal was a masterstroke. You had Macron’s pants down with that one. And now you have nailed your colours to our flag so to speak. The Union flag and the St George will be saved! Just a tad worried that I haven’t heard of any flights taking off for France yet with returnees. I wonder if the Courts are going to intervene and say we can’t return anyone to France as it is not a safe country. I mean they had to flee from there in rubber dinghies so it sounds dangerous doesn’t it.

[ballcock]

Since taking office, Sir Kid Starver has been instrumental in failing to formally recognise the state of Palestine or listen to calls to stop British arms sales to Israel, erstwhile facilitating its genocidal assault on Gaza.

He personally enables the enduring barbaric attacks on Gaza, which have generated the largest orphan crisis in modern history alongside the highest global number of child amputees and has put 93 percent of the 1.1 million children living there at acute risk of famine.

What a guy!

You are like a long playing record going on about Gaza. We have far more concerning matters going on in our own country and you keep winding on about your support of a death cult

[The Bedlington Terrier]

What goes on in Gaza comes back to haunt the UK. Remember Manchester?

[outwoodclaret]

Could it be happening again? There are two periods in our history when families were torn apart. Brother was set against brother. The first was the Wars of the Roses which ravaged the country for 30 years. The second was the English Civil War which raged for ten bloody years. Could it be happening again? I already know someone who has been forbidden to see or communicate with his grandchildren by their parents because of his political viewpoint. I have already mentioned how intolerance to everyone and everything is on the march under Starmer. Sir Keir must be worried about his prospects as he dithers while the fires are being lit. Andy Burnham is preening himself in the mirror and the mood of the country is ugly. As I have said in earlier posts, we deserve better than this.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

We were in a taxi coming back from the railway station in Bolton on Sunday night and the taxi driver said his two under 10 year old kids are both afraid to go out without him or his mum. Other kids bully them and adults shout abuse at them.

Both children were born at Royal Bolton Hospital, both are British passport holders, both parents were born in England, both kids are in the integrated English primary school system. Dad says his daughter is an outstanding student, his son not so much (sounds a lot like my own two youngest grandkids).

Both children are brown skinned. How did we get to this?

[outwoodclaret]

How did we get to this?

I think you know the answer to that BT. Lie after lie after lie after lie. Failed promise, after failed promise, after failed promise. It wasn’t just the criminal gangs that needed dismantling (and there is no evidence that they have even been scratched) but the legal framework of challenge, delay, appeal, fudge. There are sadly so it seems (led by charities) more attempts to prevent any solution. It will if we keep on this road lead to more anger. That makes it worse for everybody and I mean everybody.
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[The Bedlington Terrier]

I’m sort of thinking if Farage and Johnson had left us in Europe this would not be happening. Ironically, Farage is the root cause of the crisis. Sir Kid Starver doesn’t have the proper sized cojones to get anywhere near to solving this problem.

[Supersub6]

I?m sort of thinking if Farage and Johnson had left us in Europe this would not be happening. Ironically, Farage is the root cause of the crisis. Sir Kid Starver doesn?t have the proper sized cojones to get anywhere near to solving this problem.

BT, remember that it was not politicians who brought us out of Europe, it was the will of the people as shown in a democratic election. THe majority of elder citizens voted to leave when Cameron boed to the referendum. He resigned as a result of the vote because, quite frankly, there was no plan in place in the event that the vote was to leave.
The citizens vote democratically, however, the politicians, in most cases, just act out of self-interest.
It isn't going to get any better.

[outwoodclaret]

I?m sort of thinking if Farage and Johnson had left us in Europe this would not be happening. Ironically, Farage is the root cause of the crisis. Sir Kid Starver doesn?t have the proper sized cojones to get anywhere near to solving this problem.

If they had left the Common Market as it was working very successfully for the Western European economies we would all be fine. However politicians seeing a successful thing thought why leave it at that. We can create a fully fledged European state expand into Eastern Europe to take on the failed ex Soviet states (needlessly antagonising Russia) and then throw open all the borders. That was a huge mistake and we are now for good or ill out of the EU but not the international mess it has created. Personally I like Europe and European culture but Europe is wobbling (asylum seekers pour into it without much let or hindrance and their safety valve is Calais). There was an immigration lawyer on the news this morning saying the latest legal challenges are inevitable in the issue of fairness. And there we have it because people know fairness has long since gone out of the window. Their own Government is against them and the Courts are telling them they are second class citizens in their own country.

[outwoodclaret]

Two flights have now taken off for Paris with the seats reserved for returnees & their escorts empty. Oh dear Sir Keir. It is not laughable. Can it get worse? I think tragically it will.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

"The will of the people" will soon be ejecting Sir Kid Starver from Number 10 Downing Street I think Sir Outwood.