Political Thread in memory of David Reid. (R.I.P.)

[Balan]

BT. I think you need a personality like the one which Germany had , to sort it all out. Perhaps soon it will come to that ???

Look at the life of a Kibbutz : no rowdy crowds ,no handbag snatchers, no drunks, no walking around drunk in society, not even drunk, in their homes ?? No tough guys looking for fights, no pubs, ' No untamed youth', its a a close society, everybody knows everybody else. We all eat in a common dining hall. We all get a gift for the new year ,all the same present ,but OK! ' No police.' In summer the swimming pool is open and free, work clothes we were given free (once all meals in the dining hall were free, now we pay for what we want) common medical needs, were free, but now we pay for it. Work you chose what you want to do ,if we have it.(if not you may go and work in a town?) If you do want to 'drink ' buy beer etc, at the local store. Come to think of it, I have never seen anybody drunk here. Maybe a little merry ,laughing joking etc but not drunk.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

State of Palestine being officially recognised today in the UK but we all know it's never going to happen, because imagine there was a violent cult that used scriptures from an ancient religion to convince its followers to do evil things.

Imagine the cult was given its own state.

Imagine the cult was given machine guns, tanks and war planes.

Imagine the cult obtained nuclear weapons.

Imagine the cult started committing genocide against the indigenous people who’d been living in the area where the cult’s state was established.

Imagine the cult had huge branches in the most powerful nation on earth, and the powerful nation defended the cult no matter what it did.

Imagine the cult flipped out and started relentlessly attacking and invading the surrounding nations.

Imagine the cult had so much influence and support in western society that western governments and institutions would censor, silence, fire, marginalize and deport anyone who criticized the cult’s actions.

Imagine the western media sympathized highly with the cult and spent the entire time framing its atrocities as entirely reasonable defensive actions, and framing critics of the cult as malicious bigots.

Imagine the cult kept getting crazier and crazier and more and more violent, but nobody could find a way to stop it because its actions were backed by this giant western power structure.

That’d suck, huh?

I think that’d be just about the most bat **** insane situation anyone could possibly imagine.

A nuclear-armed death cult just murdering and massacring mountains of human beings with total impunity, backed by the most powerful people on earth? That would be an unfathomable madness.

If someone made a movie about such a thing I’d stop watching halfway through, because I would find it too unbelievable.

I’d be like, come on man. Come up with a more realistic plot line. And come up with a more believable antagonist; nobody is that evil.

I’d be like come on Hollywood, you seriously expect me to maintain my suspension of disbelief when you’re putting out a movie about these cartoonishly evil bad guys who blow up hospitals and assassinate journalists and murder humanitarian workers and deliberately massacre starving civilians seeking food?

I’d be like, you really expect me to believe a violent cult could get all this power and do all these evil things and get away with it, just by lying about it all the time? Eventually people would stop believing their lies!

I’d be like, somebody would stop them. Not only does this movie have unbelievable antagonists, it also lacks any believable protagonists. Basic human decency would compel the world to stop all these atrocities being committed right out in the open. Where are the heroes in this story?

And then I’d storm out of the movie theatre, glad to be outside that horrible fictional world where such freakish absurdities were taking place.

And then I’d stand in the parking lot and look up at the sky, and thank God I’m back in reality again.

Today I'm watching the Jews raze Gaza City to the ground and think, "Recognise what?"

[Supersub6]

State of Palestine being officially recognised today in the UK but we all know it's never going to happen, because imagine there was a violent cult that used scriptures from an ancient religion to convince its followers to do evil things.

Imagine the cult was given its own state.

Imagine the cult was given machine guns, tanks and war planes.

Imagine the cult obtained nuclear weapons.

Imagine the cult started committing genocide against the indigenous people who’d been living in the area where the cult’s state was established.

Imagine the cult had huge branches in the most powerful nation on earth, and the powerful nation defended the cult no matter what it did.

Imagine the cult flipped out and started relentlessly attacking and invading the surrounding nations.

Imagine the cult had so much influence and support in western society that western governments and institutions would censor, silence, fire, marginalize and deport anyone who criticized the cult’s actions.

Imagine the western media sympathized highly with the cult and spent the entire time framing its atrocities as entirely reasonable defensive actions, and framing critics of the cult as malicious bigots.

Imagine the cult kept getting crazier and crazier and more and more violent, but nobody could find a way to stop it because its actions were backed by this giant western power structure.

That’d suck, huh?

I think that’d be just about the most bat **** insane situation anyone could possibly imagine.

A nuclear-armed death cult just murdering and massacring mountains of human beings with total impunity, backed by the most powerful people on earth? That would be an unfathomable madness.

If someone made a movie about such a thing I’d stop watching halfway through, because I would find it too unbelievable.

I’d be like, come on man. Come up with a more realistic plot line. And come up with a more believable antagonist; nobody is that evil.

I’d be like come on Hollywood, you seriously expect me to maintain my suspension of disbelief when you’re putting out a movie about these cartoonishly evil bad guys who blow up hospitals and assassinate journalists and murder humanitarian workers and deliberately massacre starving civilians seeking food?

I’d be like, you really expect me to believe a violent cult could get all this power and do all these evil things and get away with it, just by lying about it all the time? Eventually people would stop believing their lies!

I’d be like, somebody would stop them. Not only does this movie have unbelievable antagonists, it also lacks any believable protagonists. Basic human decency would compel the world to stop all these atrocities being committed right out in the open. Where are the heroes in this story?

And then I’d storm out of the movie theatre, glad to be outside that horrible fictional world where such freakish absurdities were taking place.

And then I’d stand in the parking lot and look up at the sky, and thank God I’m back in reality again.

Today I'm watching the Jews raze Gaza City to the ground and think, "Recognise what?"

BT, are you on LSD by any chance? You can own up, I won't tell anybody but these hallucinations that you are experiencing are classic symptoms.
Try Ketamine, it's much less adventurous.

[sinkov]

State of Palestine being officially recognised today in the UK but we all know it's never going to happen, because imagine there was a violent cult that used scriptures from an ancient religion to convince its followers to do evil things.

Imagine the cult was given its own state.

Imagine the cult was given machine guns, tanks and war planes.

Imagine the cult obtained nuclear weapons.

Imagine the cult started committing genocide against the indigenous people who’d been living in the area where the cult’s state was established.

Imagine the cult had huge branches in the most powerful nation on earth, and the powerful nation defended the cult no matter what it did.

Imagine the cult flipped out and started relentlessly attacking and invading the surrounding nations.

Imagine the cult had so much influence and support in western society that western governments and institutions would censor, silence, fire, marginalize and deport anyone who criticized the cult’s actions.

Imagine the western media sympathized highly with the cult and spent the entire time framing its atrocities as entirely reasonable defensive actions, and framing critics of the cult as malicious bigots.

Imagine the cult kept getting crazier and crazier and more and more violent, but nobody could find a way to stop it because its actions were backed by this giant western power structure.

That’d suck, huh?

I think that’d be just about the most bat **** insane situation anyone could possibly imagine.

A nuclear-armed death cult just murdering and massacring mountains of human beings with total impunity, backed by the most powerful people on earth? That would be an unfathomable madness.

If someone made a movie about such a thing I’d stop watching halfway through, because I would find it too unbelievable.

I’d be like, come on man. Come up with a more realistic plot line. And come up with a more believable antagonist; nobody is that evil.

I’d be like come on Hollywood, you seriously expect me to maintain my suspension of disbelief when you’re putting out a movie about these cartoonishly evil bad guys who blow up hospitals and assassinate journalists and murder humanitarian workers and deliberately massacre starving civilians seeking food?

I’d be like, you really expect me to believe a violent cult could get all this power and do all these evil things and get away with it, just by lying about it all the time? Eventually people would stop believing their lies!

I’d be like, somebody would stop them. Not only does this movie have unbelievable antagonists, it also lacks any believable protagonists. Basic human decency would compel the world to stop all these atrocities being committed right out in the open. Where are the heroes in this story?

And then I’d storm out of the movie theatre, glad to be outside that horrible fictional world where such freakish absurdities were taking place.

And then I’d stand in the parking lot and look up at the sky, and thank God I’m back in reality again.

Today I'm watching the Jews raze Gaza City to the ground and think, "Recognise what?"

You don't half copy and paste some infantile drivel mon ami.

Leaving Alice in Wonderland for now, I believe there are still some 2 million Pallys living in Gaza, the IDF is allegedly genociding these people, but the IDF has the fire power to kill the lot of them in one afternoon if it so wished. So once again mon ami, your Lefty nonsense doesn't add up. I think I'm safe in insisting that there would not be over 2 million people living in Gaza if genocide was indeed being carried out. So which is it, no 2 million Pallys, or no genocide, both cannot be true.

[sinkov]

Brexit which in turn fostered the immigration problem. It's more than ironic he wants to stop the boats and team up with Team Trump.

Bollox, Brexit gave us back control of our borders, the responsibility now is with HM Government and our political class, before they could blame the EU, they can't now.

Mr Trump has sorted out the illegal immigrant problem in the USA overnight, hopefully Sir Nige has taken the lessons on board and Reform will sort ours out, none of the other bedwetting arsewipes will.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Bollox, Brexit gave us back control of our borders, the responsibility now is with HM Government and our political class, before they could blame the EU, they can't now.

Mr Trump has sorted out the illegal immigrant problem in the USA overnight, hopefully Sir Nige has taken the lessons on board and Reform will sort ours out, none of the other bedwetting arsewipes will.

Hitler did terror, I hope we never have to resort to that.

I just hope for a British government with the cojones to stop the frogs from taking the pi$$.

Before Farage we had the Dublin Agreement, specifically the Dublin III Regulation, which establishes which EU member state is responsible for processing an asylum application, primarily focusing on the first country of entry for the asylum seeker.

Brexit took that away from us and Farage now sits on Trump's lap like a wooden dummy.

Now we need to get frisky with the French who are using us as a dumping ground for their asylum seekers.

[Balan]

Does anybody know what B T is taking?? Come on friends ,we can really help him before its too late.

''Imagine the cult....... '' Imagine the cult''

''They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.''

[sinkov]

RENTAGOB, still alive and well in Lefty Land.

"In recent times, people have started to ask questions about the never-ending stream of far Left protests in the UK. Such as, who is funding them, and how do they have such a constant influx of activists? There’s been particular interest in the activist group Stand Up to Racism, which appears constantly available to stage counter-protests whenever there are demonstrations against migrant hotels in the UK (say, in Epping). In my view, most of these activist groups could be described as ‘Momentum 2.0’, as they often lead back to its registered address, a far-Left cooperative named Pelican House. Cooperatives – a meeting place for groups with the same political views – are typically how the Left organises. I’m sure Leftists will have plenty of reasons to justify their mode of campaigning and its proud history, but for anyone on the outside it’s highly confusing to keep up with. I would go so far as to say that their coordination at the cooperative is secretive (certainly given the number of accounts that block me on social media, such as Green New Deal Rising, also registered to Pelican House). The conclusion I’ve come to is that these cooperatives are little more than factories for masses of activist groups. Indeed I have seen how one organisation at Pelican House provides wannabe-activists with guidance on everything from setting up a payroll to mapping their protests. The benefit of flooding the UK with activist groups is it creates the impression of growing support for far Left ideas. But in order to continue the illusion, you also need feet on the ground, and where there are shortages, the Left has to recycle activists."

[outwoodclaret]

Bollox, Brexit gave us back control of our borders, the responsibility now is with HM Government and our political class, before they could blame the EU, they can't now.

Mr Trump has sorted out the illegal immigrant problem in the USA overnight, hopefully Sir Nige has taken the lessons on board and Reform will sort ours out, none of the other bedwetting arsewipes will.

The bedwetting arsewipes as you so colourfully and appropriately describe them (Sir Keir and the Libdems among others) sinkov are also now trying to convince us they are reclaiming our flag from the far right. They are trying to tap into the country?s mood without having the faintest idea of what the country is thinking. The flag does not belong to the far right. It is our flag and we don?t need them to reclaim it for us.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

There are people on here who undoubtedly support removing all Palestinians from their historic homeland via ethnic cleansing or extermination before the end of Donald Trump’s presidential term. You don't need to come out I know who you are.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Does anybody know what B T is taking?? Come on friends ,we can really help him before its too late.

''Imagine the cult....... '' Imagine the cult''

''They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.''

There are people on here who undoubtedly support removing all Palestinians from their historic homeland via ethnic cleansing or extermination before the end of Donald Trump’s presidential term. You don't need to come out I know who you are.

[Supersub6]

There are people on here who undoubtedly support removing all Palestinians from their historic homeland via ethnic cleansing or extermination before the end of Donald Trump’s presidential term. You don't need to come out I know who you are.

Worry not BT, it will all be sorted now that Sir Keir has made his statement and Yvette Cooper is telling the Israelis what they can and can't do.
The problem with all this is the fact that Hamas will not relinquish control of the areas which are being dicussed and the Palestinian people will continue to struggle as they have done for the past two years.

Hamas want to annihilate the Israelis and the Israelis want to annihilate Hamas -----not a very good state of affairs if you want peace.
Meanwhile, Palestinians and Israelis all suffer because Hamas started something in the hope that they would drag all the other Arab nations to join their cause. They were wrong and, apart from the usual suspects, the majority of the Arab nations have not joined them in their quest. Even those nations who have shown a bit of support and sent the odd missiles to bomb Israel have now eased off.

[Supersub6]

There are people on here who undoubtedly support removing all Palestinians from their historic homeland via ethnic cleansing or extermination before the end of Donald Trump?s presidential term. You don't need to come out I know who you are.

Worry not BT, it will all be sorted now that Sir Keir has made his statement and Yvette Cooper is telling the Israelis what they can and can't do.
The problem with all this is the fact that Hamas will not relinquish control of the areas which are being dicussed and the Palestinian people will continue to struggle as they have done for the past two years.

Hamas want to annihilate the Israelis and the Israelis want to annihilate Hamas -----not a very good state of affairs if you want peace.
Meanwhile, Palestinians and Israelis all suffer because Hamas started something in the hope that they would drag all the other Arab nations to join their cause. They were wrong and, apart from the usual suspects, the majority of the Arab nations have not joined them in their quest. Even those nations who have shown a bit of support and sent the odd missiles to bomb Israel have now eased off.

[Balan]

B T : '' There are people on here who undoubtedly support removing all Palestinians from their historic homeland''

''By more than 1,000 years, ?Israel? predates ?Palestine.? The land then became home primarily to an Arab population, again for more than a millennium.''

The West Bank formed the heart of ancient Israel and was the site of many significant biblical events. Since ancient times, the area has been known as Judea and Samaria and was identified as such through the British Mandate period.

Historic homeland???

In the Bible, Judea and Samaria refer to the historic heartland of the ancient Israelite kingdoms, where many biblical figures, including Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and David, lived, and where most biblical stories took place. The modern territories of Judea and Samaria correspond to these biblical regions and are considered a ***** part of the Jewish ancestral homeland.

Ancient Roots: The term "Palestine" originates from the Greek "Palaistine," first appearing in the 5th century BCE and referring to the coastal region of what was once Philistia. The Roman Empire renamed the province Judaea to "Syria Palaestina" after the Bar Kokhba Revolt in the 2nd century CE to sever ties with the Jewish population.

B T : Can you point to me any verses that mention Palestine in the Bible??
In the Bible:
, God appeared to Abraham in Shechem, which today is a predominantly Muslim city called Nablus in Samaria, and declared, ?To your offspring I will give this land.? (Genesis 12:7)also ......The Kingdom of Judah was an Israelite kingdom of the Southern Levant during the Iron Age. Centered in the highlands to the west of the Dead Sea, the kingdom's capital was Jerusalem.

''By more than 1,000 years, ?Israel? predates ?Palestine.? but ( '' There are people on here who undoubtedly support removing all Palestinians from their historic homeland.'' B T.)

[sinkov]

Before Farage we had the Dublin Agreement, specifically the Dublin III Regulation, which establishes which EU member state is responsible for processing an asylum application, primarily focusing on the first country of entry for the asylum seeker.

Brexit took that away from us and Farage now sits on Trump's lap like a wooden dummy.

Give over mon ami, I've been round the block too many times to fall for your Lefty bull****, bluff and bluster. Dublin 111 Reg my arse, it didn't exist until 2014, before that we were in the EU and illegals were arriving at somewhere around 900,000 a year, no one, especially the government, knows the real number, we left in 2020 so it lasted just six years for us and made no difference whatsoever to the numbers arriving.

Good try though.