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  • #31
    And again BT:



    Four months ago, Ahmed Swaad, a Muslim serving in the IDF, collapsed during a fitness training and was in danger of his life. He spent weeks at Soroka Hospital. Many Jews and Arabs prayed for him while doctors fought for his life. Now that he has recovered, he‘s already dreaming of returning to serve.

    So Muslims are serving in the Apartheid state ?? (Sorry the photo is not a decent quality)

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    • #32
      Originally posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
      Corbyn thinks British troops should not be in Ireland.

      Corbyn thinks the IDF could tone down the violence in Israel/Palestine/Gaza and the West Bank.

      Corbyn thinks a united Ireland and a One State solution in Israel would bring a peaceful, negotiated existence because all citizens would have the same rights and have equal access to the things in life that improve the quality of life for all.

      I tend to agree, and I am telling you from someone who has met him several times, Jeremy Corbyn is NOT anti-Semitic, he just does not like the apartheid that is going on in Israel - neither do I!
      Listen to the questions asked of him after the bombings BT and tell me he’s all you say he is,

      You won’t be able to because he won’t condemn the acts and basically as a typical politician darent have an opinion or commit.

      To be fair BT don’t let meeting him cloud your vision the man is a terrorist supporter always has been , even if he comes across as a thoroughly nice chap.

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      • #33
        I do not know enough about Corbyn to add anything. However, my compliments to all for a debate based upon evidence. - not the current of simply condemning an opinion with no evidence to support another opinion.

        Thanks again to Balan for highlighting some of the realities of Israel - not the anti-Semitic media and the desire to paint Israel as the aggressor.

        Yes I am “goy”. However, I have felt very welcome and respected in Israel and have seen no evidence of “apartheid”.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
          I just did not understand how you get awarded £10,000 for someone texting "Today Jeremy Corbyn went to his local mosque for Visit My Mosque Day, and was attacked by a Brexiteer. Rachel Riley tweets that Corbyn deserves to be violently attacked because he is a Nazi. This woman is as dangerous as she is stupid. Nobody should engage with her. Ever."

          I still don't to be honest.
          Because Murray lied about what Rachel had texted, and it cost the lying, anti-semitic, Loony Leftard ten grand. Almost restores my faith in British justice.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
            Christmas quiz question for you Supersub6 - over the last 25 years name the MP who has consistently claimed the least parliamentary expenses year in year out.

            I'll give you a clue - it was not Owen Paterson.

            It was neither a Tory nor Liberal Democrat MP either.
            Sorry BT, bit late for Christmas, but here's a quiz question for you.

            Who was leader of the Labour Party, when it was found guilty by the Equalities and Human Rights Commission, of failing to address anti-semitism in the party ?

            And I'll give you a clue as well - it was not Owen Paterson.

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            • #36
              Yeah! it will not go away! What? This 'bloody Corona thing.' (Wakey, wakey, rise and shine lads)

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              • #37
                Originally posted by sinkov View Post
                Sorry BT, bit late for Christmas, but here's a quiz question for you.

                Who was leader of the Labour Party, when it was found guilty by the Equalities and Human Rights Commission, of failing to address anti-semitism in the party ?

                And I'll give you a clue as well - it was not Owen Paterson.
                The PC Brigade alias the Equality and Human Rights Commission.

                The Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) is a toothless, humourless, some would say useless non-departmental public body operating in England and Wales, established by the Equality Act 2006 with effect from 1 October 2007.

                The Commission has responsibility for the promotion and enforcement of equality and non-discrimination laws in England and Wales. It took over the responsibilities of the Commission for Racial Equality, the Equal Opportunities Commission and the Disability Rights Commission.

                It also has responsibility for other aspects of equality law: age, ***ual orientation and religion or belief. A national human rights institution, it seeks to promote and protect human rights in England and Wales. It has garnered a well-earned reputation for pandering to the right-wing media and the Politically Correct Brigade, Scotland does not share the enthusiasm for this toothless tiger and have gone about setting up their own Equality and Human Rights Commission in Scotland.

                Taking a leaf right out of the Labour Party’s handbook, the Scots aspire to work to eliminate discrimination, reduce inequality, protect and promote human rights, build good relations between people and ensure that everyone has a fair chance to participate in society.
                It has however failed spectacularly as anyone who has recently witnessed an “Old Firm” derby in Glasgow or attended a Hearts of Midlothian versus Hibernian football game in Edinburgh will happily tell you.

                Hopping straight on the “Let’s cry anti-Semitism bandwagon” are our favourite two Jewish Panto Dames, Labour MP Margaret Hodge and serial political party jumper Luciana Berger who have already tried and executed Jeremy Corbyn on at least god knows how many other previous occasions.

                This spurious, “anti-Semitic is rife in the Labour Party” nonsense was instigated by a jumped up, overly privileged Hooray Henry Witchfinder General named Gideon Falter. This self-righteous busybody also happens to be perhaps not by chance, the Chief Executive of the Campaign Against Antisemitism.

                Falter is also purportedly the Chairman of the ultra-Zionist Jewish National Fund, you guessed it, that’s the one that promotes the rights of Jews to steal Palestinian land.

                Falter leaves no stone unturned in his zeal to find anti-Semitism at every corner. In the summer of 2014, Falter helped to establish the afore-mentioned Campaign Against Antisemitism UK. He quickly recruited his Jewish buddy Jonathan Sacerdoti, a British journalist who resides in the United Kingdom.

                Sacerdoti covers stories relating to the UK and Europe, in addition to commenting on terrorism and extremism, he also attempts to analyse what’s breaking in the Middle East. He is also an avid anti-Semitism campaigner.
                Sacerdoti and Falter once together, quickly conceived one of Baldrick’s most cunning plans to call for “zero tolerance enforcement of existing laws against anti-Semitism by the police.” Falter also claims the Israeli Defence Force is “held to impossibly high standards” in response to the Israelis using unharmed Palestinians for target practice.

                Finally, let us not forget the EHRC was originally inspired by the legend in his own lunchbox Mark Trevor Phillips. Phillips famously moaned it would be impossible for a black candidate in the United Kingdom to rise to the top in politics because of institutional racism within the Labour Party.

                Do we really need to say any more? Here's a photo for you sinkov of your favourite panto dame and fellow incompetent anti-Corbyn cronies- where is she now?

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                • #38
                  There are other points of view Balan as well you know...

                  https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a7887821.html

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                  • #39
                    Seek and you shall find Balan...

                    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-...-east-59084408

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Balanbam00 View Post
                      BT in a quick reply

                      Abbas his Government is paying any Palestinians to kill Jews, and so they stab some Jew then are incarcerated in Jail. What do you think these Young Palestinians will do?

                      “This picture tells the story co-existence within the Jewish state. Three women - a Christian from Mi'ilya, a Jew from Yehud and a Muslim from Qalansawe.



                      How come Christian Arabs and Muslims serve in the Army if it is an ''Apartheid State''???
                      Perhaps they don't want to be banged in an Israeli hell-hole Balan...

                      https://www.timesofisrael.com/two-**...g-to-join-idf/

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Balanbam00 View Post
                        BT in a quick reply

                        Abbas his Government is paying any Palestinians to kill Jews, and so they stab some Jew then are incarcerated in Jail. What do you think these Young Palestinians will do?

                        “This picture tells the story co-existence within the Jewish state. Three women - a Christian from Mi'ilya, a Jew from Yehud and a Muslim from Qalansawe.



                        How come Christian Arabs and Muslims serve in the Army if it is an ''Apartheid State''???
                        Perhaps they don't want to go to jail Balan..?

                        https://www.timesofisrael.com/two-**...g-to-join-idf/


                        Facebook took down the link but here you go Balan...

                        Two Israeli women were arrested on Wednesday after they refused to enlist in the Israeli military, citing objections to the IDF’s activities in the West Bank.

                        Conscientious objectors Tamar Alon, 18, and Tamar Ze’evi, 19, who were both slated to join the IDF, arrived Wednesday afternoon at the recruitment office in Tel Hashomer. There, after declaring their refusal to serve, the two were arrested and imprisoned for two days by army authorities. Israel does not recognize political or conscientious objection as grounds to receive exemption from the mandatory draft.

                        Alon and Ze’evi refused conscription due to their “unwillingness to contribute to the oppression of the Palestinian People,” according to a statement by Mesarvot — Political Refusal Network, an organization that is aiding the two objectors.

                        Last edited by The Bedlington Terrier; 27-12-2021, 07:49 AM.

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                        • #42
                          If you repeat it long enough ,you will start to believe it : ''the rights of Jews to steal Palestinian land.'' ''the rights of Jews to steal Palestinian land.'' ''the rights of Jews to steal Palestinian land.'' ''the rights of Jews to steal Palestinian land.''
                          Better to learn more facts

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                          • #43
                            I only posted what the two lasses said Balan. Take it up with them mate.

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                            • #44
                              Know Your History: The Palestine Of 1897 (NY Times Aug 15, 1897)
                              One of the narratives we hear from the Anti-semitists is, in simple terms, the Jews came from Europe and stole the land from the Palestinian people.
                              In an article published in the New York Times on August 15, 1897, two weeks before Theodor Herzl convened the First Zionist Congress.

                              The main points of interest:
                              The modern Jewish settlement of the land was already happening in the 1800s
                              Land was not being stolen from Arabs living there – it was being sold legally to Jews by the administering Ottoman-Turks
                              There is no talk of an indigenous Palestinian Arab nation living there at the time, although of course there were Arabs living there, some of whom were even working with the Jews or on Jewish-owned land
                              There was marked progress as the Jews bought up land and established industry and infrastructure
                              There were more ancient Jewish settlements extant, and Arabian Jews living in the land in addition to the Jews from Europe.

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                              • #45
                                One of those young girls said,'' “I believe that the ways of war, violence and oppression will not allow us to maintain a democratic state and be a ‘free people in our land,'” she said, referring to a line in Hatikva, Israel’s national anthem. “I refuse to enlist out of concern and love for my society and out of a desire to encourage public discourse on the character and future of our society.”

                                Ze’evi echoed Alon’s sentiments, insisting that she was refusing to serve due to her love for the land and its people.

                                “We will only get out of this cycle of fear and violence when we open our hearts and minds, look at what is happening around us, and allow ourselves to feel the pain suffered by the people who live in this land,” said Ze’evi. “Once we all understand and accept this reality, I want to believe empathy, tolerance and compromise will be our only choice.”

                                Tamar Alon is a second-generation conscientious objector. Her father Chen Alon famously refused to serve as a reserve officer during the Second Intifada and then founded “Combatants for Peace,” a bi-national peace movement that connects Israeli and Palestinian activists.

                                I would say two girls from part of our 'left wing ' Yes, 'the Peace Now Movement'.
                                I would say they do not see reality, the Palestinians pay to kill Jews. Kill a Jew ,your family gets an award, you go to jail What do you think some will do ? In several years these are the first I know about the young refusing ,of course some will object.

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