US Gun Laws?

[The Bedlington Terrier]

The US rifle/gun industry sold nearly 20m guns in America last year alone, earning itself tens of billions of dollars: this is in the wake of the mass shootings at Columbine, and at Virginia Tech, and at Sandy Hook, and at Parkland, in Las Vegas and now Uvalde.

I suppose the NRA with its advocates like Trump and the gun toting Republicans who form the Senate gun lobby, are not going to loosen their grip on billions of dollars of profit, no matter how many innocent schoolkids get slaughtered.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

There are many ways of obtaining guns, besides buying them over the counter. Don't be so naive.

I wonder who is being naive mon ami?

"There were a total of 45,222 firearm deaths in the US in 2020, an increase of 14% or 5,155 firearm deaths from 2019."

[sinkov]

Michael Adebolajo, one of Lee Rigby's killers, remember that BT ?

"Spent the night before the murder in a drug den"
"started dabbling in drugs and became known to the police"

"Woolwich killers went from drugs and gangs to radical Islam"

It went virtually unreported, but when police went to his house they found it was a cannibis farm. Right wing nut jobs, ialamic extremists, it makes no difference, they all have the same thing in common. Can you see pattern yet BT, has any light permeated the darkness ?

No, thought not.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

You are confusing and/or conflating the issue sinkov.

Are you saying the reported 45,222 firearm deaths in the US in 2020 were attributable to cannabis usage or domestic terrorism or a combination of both?

Or maybe the fact that around 20 million firearms are sold unapologetically in the US annually, might explain the 45,222 firearm deaths in the US in 2020.

Drugs and guns, Christ Almighty that's one toxic and deadly cocktail.

[ClaretinBudapest]

You are confusing and/or conflating the issue sinkov.

Are you saying the reported 45,222 firearm deaths in the US in 2020 were attributable to cannabis usage or domestic terrorism or a combination of both?

Or maybe the fact that around 20 million firearms are sold unapologetically in the US annually, might explain the 45,222 firearm deaths in the US in 2020.

Drugs and guns, Christ Almighty that's one toxic and deadly cocktail.

1.5m deaths since 1945 by gunshot in the US.
103.000 via drug overdose last year alone.
Enough said.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

1.5m deaths since 1945 by gunshot in the US.
103.000 via drug overdose last year alone.
Enough said.

And your point CiB is?

[sinkov]

These people are not sane, rational beings BT, they are deranged, they do not wake up in a morning and think, 'you know what, guns are readily available, so I'll go and buy one and kill somebody'. The urge/desire to kill someone takes hold first, guns are simply one of the weapons these madmen choose to use. If guns were not available they would use something else.

What needs addressing is the cause of their mental derangement, and it's apparent in every case but rarely mentioned, it's like move along, nothing to see here. You can read Wiki on the Lee Rigby case, it's a very long read, police inquiries and reports, government inquiries and reports, on and on it goes, but nowhere is the drug use of the murderers mentioned, not once. You tell me why not.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

These people are not sane, rational beings BT, they are deranged, they do not wake up in a morning and think, 'you know what, guns are readily available, so I'll go and buy one and kill somebody'. The urge/desire to kill someone takes hold first, guns are simply one of the weapons these madmen choose to use. If guns were not available they would use something else.

What needs addressing is the cause of their mental derangement, and it's apparent in every case but rarely mentioned, it's like move along, nothing to see here. You can read Wiki on the Lee Rigby case, it's a very long read, police inquiries and reports, government inquiries and reports, on and on it goes, but nowhere is the drug use of the murderers mentioned, not once. You tell me why not.

Without researching it in full again sinkov, going back to the Las Vegas massacre in 2017, the dude who had no history of drug abuse, killed 60 people and wounded over 400 with an array of military grade rifle shots.

He's be hard pushed to do that with a machete.

There was never a mention of the shooter being under the influence of drugs.

He was just your average run-of-the-mill US born whack job who could buy assault weapons on virtually every street corner in Nevada.

He shot himself dead.

[sinkov]

There's a guy runs a website tracking all these drug fuelled atrocities, those that don't feature drug fuelled nut nut jobs are few and far between. When I get back off my jollies I'll see if I can find a link for you.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

There's a guy runs a website tracking all these drug fuelled atrocities, those that don't feature drug fuelled nut nut jobs are few and far between. When I get back off my jollies I'll see if I can find a link for you.

Stay safe and enjoy the jollies mon ami.

[sinkov]

Stay safe and enjoy the jollies mon ami.

Thank you mon ami, just found this, link it to my post 37 and tell me just what is going on.

Soon after the school massacre in Uvalde, Texas, the mighty New York Times found a young woman called Jocelyn Rodriguez who had worked with the killer at Wendy's hamburger restaurant. She said the murderer had rowed with his mother and grandmother because they would not let him smoke marijuana. Just 24 hours later this detail was cut out of the online report, without explanation.


It happens every time mon ami, the fact that drug use is involved, as it is virtually every time, is swept under the carpet, any ideas ?

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Are you suggesting cannabis use can evoke the will to kill 20 helpless kids mon ami?

Back in the day loads of my mates were "experimenting" with marijuana and skunk, but I can't recall any of them ever going berserk or running amok and shooting 20 kids and their teachers in cold blood.

Mind you they couldn't just nip to their local ASDA and buy a military grade arsenal, which might go a long way to explaining why we have had no repeats of Dunblane.

[Supersub6]

Here you are BT ----an update on fun and games in the good old USA!

https://www.npr.org/2022/05/29/1102017788/after-uvalde-mass-shootings-continue-over-the-weekend-across-the-u-s?fbclid=IwAR0QP58Zq4BrptQ1spBuaERHCC-4rOBDSq1N7-xDvRuzh_jHFbvxviBPxhc

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Here you are BT ----an update on fun and games in the good old USA!

https://www.npr.org/2022/05/29/11020..._jHFbvxviBPxhc

It's like the Wild West Supersub6! Canada are now planning to ban the use of carrying hand guns totally and permanently.

About bloody time too.

[ClaretinBudapest]

And your point CiB is?

My point is there are lots of druggies and lots of deaths by gunshot.