US Gun Laws?

[Robus]

What the world needs more of: Roof Koreans!

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Have guns - people die...

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/woman-21-shot-in-the-head-at-philly-bar-after-man-upset-that-pool-table-was-occupied-fired-at-bar/ar-AAZ0MCw?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=7136d971b91744af815c34f89cd57527

[sinkov]

"Evil killer Wesley Streete sentenced to life after Keeley Bunker's rape and murder. Wesley Streete will serve a minimum term of 30 years after he attacked Keeley Bunker and killed her in Wigginton Park, Tamworth"

"Ms Riggon told the court that she, Keeley, Streete and another male friend would often meet up at a bench in Wigginton Park near Tamworth Rugby Club to smoke cannabis before going to bed."

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...words-22386026

[sinkov]

"Callous murderer who spent five days with his victim's corpse given life sentence"

"McKinlay had been drinking and had taken medication for flu along with Valium and cannabis before the attack, the High Court in Glasgow heard."

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/c...t-five-3916623

[The Bedlington Terrier]

You keep on quoting UK murders sinkov.

FFS the thread is about GUN Laws in the US or "Wild West" as it is now commonly referred too.

May I respectfully suggest you open a separate thread on the repercussions of WEED use in the UK..?

[sinkov]

You brought up the little matter of correlation mon ami, you said there wasn't any, I say there is, thousands of murders worldwide involving druggies say there is. You can bring in any gun law you like, while people are off their tree on drugs you won't stop the killings. They'll access guns illegally or choose another weapon. I'm pointing out the real problem, you're just playing politics.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

There is little doubt that cannabis-induced psychosis is a problem mon ami, but I cannot understand why you can't concede the clear and obvious danger of a pothead being able to walk into his local Walmart and be able to buy the virtually unrestricted arsenal of his choice.

Even the US Senate on both sides of the House is now agreeing to tighten US gun laws, about bloody time too!

[sinkov]

If you really are serious about saving lives, then try restricting access to guns and restricting access to mind altering substances. Then you might be onto something, otherwise you're wasting your time.

[Robus]

Gun right do not exist to "save lives" in the abstract. That kind of faux utilitarianism is the enemy of constitutional democracy. Stalinist regimes pretend to make grand "means justify the ends" calculations with the lives and liberties of their citizens. In fact, they crush the people in every possibly way, morally, intellectually, and physically.

I preserve the means to defend myself and my own apart from reliance upon the state because it is my human right to do so.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Gun right do not exist to "save lives" in the abstract. That kind of faux utilitarianism is the enemy of constitutional democracy. Stalinist regimes pretend to make grand "means justify the ends" calculations with the lives and liberties of their citizens. In fact, they crush the people in every possibly way, morally, intellectually, and physically.

I preserve the means to defend myself and my own apart from reliance upon the state because it is my human right to do so.

Why bother with Law Enforcement Agencies Robus, just shoot and kill anyone you don't like.

Sir you are redundant, go home and defend your fort from the Indians, the Brits and those ghastly black folks.

[Robus]

Don't recognize the uniform or man.

Police do a fine job much of the time. But as the saying goes, "when seconds count, the police are minutes away."

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Don't recognize the uniform or man.

Police do a fine job much of the time. But as the saying goes, "when seconds count, the police are minutes away."

There's no need for you to recognize either the man or the uniform Robus, just shoot and kill anyone you take exception too. Mind you giving a US white male cop a gun is like handing out a licence to kill.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/593678-police-shootings-rise-in-2021-report/

That's roughly 20 US citizens killed by their own police every week. God help us all.

[Robus]

1000 fatal shooting by police in a country of 330 million?

Cry your eyes out. I couldn't give a hoot. Overwhelmingly the police are justified. Given rising crime rates, we might want to up the number.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

1000 fatal shooting by police in a country of 330 million?

Cry your eyes out. I couldn't give a hoot. Overwhelmingly the police are justified. Given rising crime rates, we might want to up the number.

You simply reinforce my opinion that the US Gun laws are barmy Robus.

It's fairly obvious you are neither black, Hispanic or female.

1000 deaths at the hands of those who are supposed to protect and serve is an odious blemish on the US, I'm glad I made the decision to leave and never return.

[Robus]

Contemplate this: The new UK census report is going to show that 25% of the population of England and Wales are foreign. Their growth rates exceed yours. You children will be punished in their ancestral land for being English. You gave your country away, you virtuous individual you.