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  • I saw that video. What do you make of it?

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    • Originally posted by Robus View Post
      I saw that video. What do you make of it?
      I shudder to think those who are supposed to protect and serve could possibly murder someone like this in cold blood.

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      • What should they have done instead?

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        • Wearing a ski mask, driving away, then running away from police, gun in his car. Sounds like a wrong 'un to me.

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          • Originally posted by Robus View Post
            What should they have done instead?
            Might they have put a bullet in one leg?

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            • Originally posted by sinkov View Post
              Wearing a ski mask, driving away, then running away from police, gun in his car. Sounds like a wrong 'un to me.
              Hah! The old Judge and jury argument, don't bother with the trouble of arrest and trial, just pump 4 dozen bullets into the perp.

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              • Originally posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
                Hah! The old Judge and jury argument, don't bother with the trouble of arrest and trial, just pump 4 dozen bullets into the perp.
                I didn't shoot him, tell you what though BT, you'd have a bit of a wobbler on if he turned up to take a daughter of yours to the local Pizza Hut. But you needn't worry about that now, nor do any fathers in the land of the free, he's brown bread.

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                • Textbook example of how to get yourself shot by police--and become a media star for a day. Our mainstream media has an insatiable hunger for police shooting stories to fuel the demand for outrage, spark a riot or two, and draw eyeballs to their stale product. Americas are wising up to the fake BLM narrative.

                  How deeply did the tragic fate of Jayland Walker affect you, BT? Personally, I am beyond the stages of denial, anger, and bargaining, and well on to acceptance.

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                  • Originally posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
                    Might they have put a bullet in one leg?
                    It's unrealistic in the moment and contrary to their training. This one that churns my gut. Happened a few days ago and 10 miles from where I live. The shooting was perfectly justified by the book. Just, gosh.

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                    • Here we go again...



                      Hard to believe: The three people shot dead in Indiana on Sunday are among 136 people killed in firearm violence nationwide in the last 72 hours alone, according to the Gun Violence Archive.

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                      • Originally posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
                        Here we go again...



                        Hard to believe: The three people shot dead in Indiana on Sunday are among 136 people killed in firearm violence nationwide in the last 72 hours alone, according to the Gun Violence Archive.
                        Methinks thou doth protest too much BT, there are numerous countries on this planet where you are more likely to be bumped off than the USA, in fact compared to many places it's a safe haven. Amongst the countries with a higher murder rate than the USA are,

                        El Salvador, Jamaica, Honduras, Belize, Venezuela, South Africa, St Kitts and Nevis, Nigeria, Bahamas, Trinidad and Tobago, Mexico, Brazil, Colombia, Guatemala, Saint Lucia, Puerto Rico, Namibia, Botswana, Guyana, Seychelles, Uruguay, Costa Rica, Antigua and Barbuda, Grenada, Uganda, Iraq, Dominican Republic, Barbados, Papua New Guinea, Panama, Ethiopia, British Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands, Russia, Bermuda, Peru, Zimbabwe, Nicaragua, Paraguay, Tanzania, Philippines, Bolivia, Ukraine, Mongolia, Ecuador, Guadeloupe, Zambia, Argentina, Greenland, Sudan and Cuba. That is not an exclusive list, there are many, many others.

                        Why are you not also concerned about the poor buggers being killed at an even greater rate in these countries than in the USA ? Is it because you cannot use the deaths of these people as a stick with which to beat Donald Trump and the Republican Party ? Surely not, you wouldn't stoop so low would you ?

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                        • Originally posted by sinkov View Post
                          Methinks thou doth protest too much BT, there are numerous countries on this planet where you are more likely to be bumped off than the USA, in fact compared to many places it's a safe haven. Amongst the countries with a higher murder rate than the USA are,

                          El Salvador, Jamaica, Honduras, Belize, Venezuela, South Africa, St Kitts and Nevis, Nigeria, Bahamas, Trinidad and Tobago, Mexico, Brazil, Colombia, Guatemala, Saint Lucia, Puerto Rico, Namibia, Botswana, Guyana, Seychelles, Uruguay, Costa Rica, Antigua and Barbuda, Grenada, Uganda, Iraq, Dominican Republic, Barbados, Papua New Guinea, Panama, Ethiopia, British Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands, Russia, Bermuda, Peru, Zimbabwe, Nicaragua, Paraguay, Tanzania, Philippines, Bolivia, Ukraine, Mongolia, Ecuador, Guadeloupe, Zambia, Argentina, Greenland, Sudan and Cuba. That is not an exclusive list, there are many, many others.

                          Why are you not also concerned about the poor buggers being killed at an even greater rate in these countries than in the USA ? Is it because you cannot use the deaths of these people as a stick with which to beat Donald Trump and the Republican Party ? Surely not, you wouldn't stoop so low would you ?
                          Don't talk daft sinkov, of course I would.

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                          • "Lao Tzu — 'There is no greater danger than underestimating your opponent."

                            I shall give myself a good slap, and try not to fall into this trap again.

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                            • Originally posted by sinkov View Post
                              Methinks thou doth protest too much BT, there are numerous countries on this planet where you are more likely to be bumped off than the USA, in fact compared to many places it's a safe haven. Amongst the countries with a higher murder rate than the USA are,

                              El Salvador, Jamaica, Honduras, Belize, Venezuela, South Africa, St Kitts and Nevis, Nigeria, Bahamas, Trinidad and Tobago, Mexico, Brazil, Colombia, Guatemala, Saint Lucia, Puerto Rico, Namibia, Botswana, Guyana, Seychelles, Uruguay, Costa Rica, Antigua and Barbuda, Grenada, Uganda, Iraq, Dominican Republic, Barbados, Papua New Guinea, Panama, Ethiopia, British Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands, Russia, Bermuda, Peru, Zimbabwe, Nicaragua, Paraguay, Tanzania, Philippines, Bolivia, Ukraine, Mongolia, Ecuador, Guadeloupe, Zambia, Argentina, Greenland, Sudan and Cuba. That is not an exclusive list, there are many, many others.

                              Why are you not also concerned about the poor buggers being killed at an even greater rate in these countries than in the USA ? Is it because you cannot use the deaths of these people as a stick with which to beat Donald Trump and the Republican Party ? Surely not, you wouldn't stoop so low would you ?
                              Bloody hell sinkov, I am very lucky to still be here. I have been to 34 of the 51 countries you mention as well as the good old USA. I always knew that my bulletproof vest would come in handy!

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                              • Awaiting details on the Indiana shooting. The words "food court" trigger associations.

                                I don't mind being compared to the West when it comes to homicide rates (we don't give a hoot about shifty terms like "firearm violence"). But understand: We are a Western nation; however embedded within us are pockets of an urban sub-culture with homicide rates more typical of Central America. That urban sub-culture is a fraction of our population but accounts for at least 1/2 of our homicides. The sub-culture is black, and to a lesser extent Hispanic. Whites and Asians are scarcely involved at all. Supersized crime rates are just one symptom of decay in the sub-culture. Another is the collapse of families. 90% of black babies in Chicago are born into households without a father present.

                                If you take away that 1/2 of our murders, the rest of the America has homicide rates typical of the West. Since you lived in the US, BT you know this: Most Americans find it easy to avoid that urban sub-culture. By taking simple steps, we can opt out of most of the associated risks. We can optimize our lives so that we face the Western risk levels, not Central American ones. We do this by self-segregating in our living arrangements and daily routines. Americans of all races and classes are highly attuned to the signs of high-risk sub-cultures. We avoid them and gravitate toward the signs of order.

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