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  • #16
    Originally posted by Vintage Claret View Post
    So Mr Trump pleads not guilty to all the charges.

    Yet he was filmed by the television companies inciting his supporters to march on the captol Building on the 6th January 2021, with the express intent of trying to force Mike Pence into overturning the declared election result, although at no time did he tell the gun weilding morons to use violence.

    While it may have been legal for Mike Pence to overturn the result he chose to standby that election result, which as led to him being classed as a traitor by Trump and his supporters.

    At least one of his opponents in the race for republican presidential candidate nomination has intimated that Trump is only seeking re-election as president so he can delay the course of justice, whether that be guily or not guilty. He may even hope to be elected and pardon himself, which is something that could only happen in America.

    Personally I can only see the prospect of civil war being if Trump is re-elected and again tries to become a dictator.
    Propaganda that vintage - watched a really interesting piece where people within theBBC said they weren't happy re panorama and other s manipulating Trumps speech ( they spliced 2-3 sections to make it look like he insighted violence when in reality he asked for peace and calm.

    Find and watch it - the good old BbC selling it to us that Trump did as you intimate.

    Tacpayers money - as i say Propaganda.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by sinkov View Post
      If it's in the print version of the Grauniad, fair enough, I could find no trace of it on their website.
      Apologies mon ami, I was reading the furore this morning during my breakfast time and I was looking back to send you a copy & paste. It seems I was actually reading a Facebook page not from the Guardian which unsurprisingly is not mentioning the BBC gaffe - deliberate or not. Which ever way me have to expect better from the BBC. Sorry -

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      • #18
        Apologies mon ami, I was reading the furore this morning during my breakfast time and I was just looking back to send you a copy & paste. It seems I was actually reading a Facebook page not from the Guardian, which unsurprisingly is not mentioning the BBC gaffe - deliberate or not. Which ever way we have to expect better from the BBC. Sorry -

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        • #19
          Phuck off with the politics please 🙏

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          • #20
            Originally posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
            Apologies mon ami, I was reading the furore this morning during my breakfast time and I was just looking back to send you a copy & paste. It seems I was actually reading a Facebook page not from the Guardian, which unsurprisingly is not mentioning the BBC gaffe - deliberate or not. Which ever way we have to expect better from the BBC. Sorry -
            Definitely deliberate Bt , signed papers from ex employees highlighting they knew it was wrong several times but the heirachy told them to turn a blind eye and carry on even though they highlighted its illegal and breaks the law.

            Tax payers money - the government behind them you really couldn’t write it - like everything else in this country F ——ed dripping with lies and deception to the voters.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by army88 View Post
              Definitely deliberate Bt , signed papers from ex employees highlighting they knew it was wrong several times but the heirachy told them to turn a blind eye and carry on even though they highlighted its illegal and breaks the law.

              Tax payers money - the government behind them you really couldn?’t write it - like everything else in this country F ?—?—ed dripping with lies and deception to the voters.
              I'm at a loss army88, whatever happened to integrity?

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              • #22
                The Kibutz
                Kibbutz members are characterized by their belief in collectivism, equality, and communal living, which has historically led to shared ownership of property and a focus on communal decision-making. They are often described as being part of a larger unit than just their own family, and their work has traditionally been ***** for both agriculture and the community's overall enterprises. While the original collective structure has been modernized in many kibbutzim, members still often share a strong sense of community and responsibility towards one another.

                The Jewish Agency has been working to secure a vibrant Jewish future since 1929 - What Exactly is a Kibbutz

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Balan View Post
                  The Kibutz
                  Kibbutz members are characterized by their belief in collectivism, equality, and communal living, which has historically led to shared ownership of property and a focus on communal decision-making. They are often described as being part of a larger unit than just their own family, and their work has traditionally been ***** for both agriculture and the community's overall enterprises. While the original collective structure has been modernized in many kibbutzim, members still often share a strong sense of community and responsibility towards one another.

                  https://www.jewishagency.org/what-exactly-is-a-kibbutz/
                  A serious question for you Balan, how do the Zionists regard kibbutz living?

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                  • #24
                    B T : First to answer ''what is a Zionist?'' or Zionism? '' , How do the Zionists regard kibbutz living?

                    I do not think many people in Israeli towns and cities, see this as an ideal place to live, mainly because all members of a Kibutz earn the same wage,of course some may work outside the Kibutz and if any expenses occur they simply claim it at the end of the month,like buying meals ,parking expenses etc. Then work is limited in chosing from maybe one or two work places. A person may want to work as a sales rep outside the kibutz ,but first he may apply to learn about the trade etc. That means learning at some college ,school etc.
                    The person will bring this desire to a kibbutz meeting to ask to become (what he /she so desires ?) Because it envolves study and payments. That person brings his /her request to a Kibbutz meeting ,where the person in question will ask in the Kibutz meeting to go and do what he so wishes. If people vote to accept his desire then the Kibutz will pay all his expenses.The downside would be if too many people wish to study ,not all can be given their choice and will have to wait perhaps another year.

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