OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

[Trickytreesreds]

Ha, ha. Full marks for subtlety MoP...zero for taste. That picture ruined my breakfast.

Now remind me...what is it he actually stands for?

What he stands for is...........
1. an outlet to vent your fury at self serving politicians
2. the chance to force change in political parties
3. the chance to cripple MP's ignoring public opinion

Yes, voting for him causes trouble. But nothing changes without pain.
I for one am sick to death with the way politics has gone over the last 20 years.
Lining their own nests/ignoring voters/lying/breaking the law without fear

I hoped the other parties would wake up and change at the threat the Brexit party posed.
But no, just like the EU they refuse to reform.

Tories- May/Johnson/hunt spare me.
Liebour, Corbyn/Abbott/McDonnall, the most native hating politicians ever
Lib Dims- Lying Cable, now in bed with turncoat hokey cokey Chukka. About as trust worthy as a used condom.

So what does he stand for?
Listen to voters. Do what is asked of you. That's why you are voted in. It's a principle Soubry has never understood.

[MadAmster]

By the 70s, workers had got themselves a good deal. Too many still weren't happy and we had a period of huge unrest that basically riined the mining industry, much of the UK manufacturing industry and, since then, job security in the UK has gone down and down. Thousands of part time jobs all paying minimum wage. Zero hours contracts are a laugh as well although they do seem to be going out of fashion.

Austerity, inability to pay pensions resulting in the pensionable age going up and up, National debt gone up twofold in the past 9 years, a total lack of compassion for the sick and the disabled of this country, ex servicemen living rough as they have struggled to make the transition from the forces back to civvy street often due to PTSD and other mental health issues. What have all flavours of government done about this? Absolutely nowt. They force people off their death beds as they are deemed "fit to work".

I grew up in a caring nation. That nation has died and we are left with a f*ck you Jack, I'm all right society where the rich get richer and the rest had better know their place. As I said in a different post, globalism has seen an ever decreasing number of people taking the profits to better themselves and using some of it to back politicians to make their lot even better to the detriment of the rest. Unless it is stopped it will only get worse. The multinationals will get more and more say in government policy and the ordinary man/woman will be working 3 jobs just to get by.

Who's to blame? IMO a handful of Union bosses who pushed and pushed until the owners of the companies decided to push back..... harder.

At the start of the 70s we were doing well, now we are going backwards fast.

[AngryRam]

‘All precious’? Do behave.
Tbh Angry I couldn’t give a **** what you think of me, either as a poster or a person.
Suffice it to say that it is noticeable that there’s been no vitriolic name calling and a much more intelligent level of discussion in your absence and the fact that you take being referred to as the forum’s ‘70’s boot boy’ as a compliment tells me all I need to know.

Vitriolic name calling.. Examples please? Bar Swaledales of course.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Come on Angry, we all know you to be acrimonious, rancorous, bitter, caustic, mordant, acerbic, astringent, acid, acrid, trenchant, virulent, spiteful, crabbed, savage, venomous, poisonous, malicious, malignant, malign, pernicious, splenetic, nasty, mean, cruel, unkind, harsh, ill-natured, evil-intentioned, vindictive, scathing, searing, biting, barbed, wounding, stinging, tart, sharp, rapier-like, razor-edged, cutting, withering, sarcastic, sardonic, irascible, bitchy, catty, slashing, malefic, maleficent, acidulous, mordacious and squint-eyed

[ramAnag]

Vitriolic name calling.. Examples please? Bar Swaledales of course.

Christ...you won’t let it go will you?
I’ve got better things to do tbh, but off the top of my head...apparently I’m tearing the country apart, ruining the country, bumbling, boring, an easy target, and embarrassing. Actually the last two might have been about Swale...I can’t remember and have no intention of checking.
Regarding Jo Brand it was something like...’should be arrested for giving pig ugly a bad name’.

Will that do seeing as you asked for examples?

Oh and apparently I’m ‘precious’ which, coming from someone whose avatar looks like Gollum posing with his big white BMW(?) I decided was just vaguely ironic.

Have a look at the thread and, Tricky and Swale’s ongoing war of words apart, it was all quite civil, constructive even, without you.

[Trickytreesreds]

Come on Angry, we all know you to be acrimonious, rancorous, bitter, caustic, mordant, acerbic, astringent, acid, acrid, trenchant, virulent, spiteful, crabbed, savage, venomous, poisonous, malicious, malignant, malign, pernicious, splenetic, nasty, mean, cruel, unkind, harsh, ill-natured, evil-intentioned, vindictive, scathing, searing, biting, barbed, wounding, stinging, tart, sharp, rapier-like, razor-edged, cutting, withering, sarcastic, sardonic, irascible, bitchy, catty, slashing, malefic, maleficent, acidulous, mordacious and squint-eyed

Tart?

Never, I don't believe that.

[Trickytreesreds]

Christ...you won’t let it go will you?
I’ve got better things to do tbh, but off the top of my head...apparently I’m tearing the country apart, ruining the country, bumbling, boring, an easy target, and embarrassing. Actually the last two might have been about Swale...I can’t remember and have no intention of checking.
Regarding Jo Brand it was something like...’should be arrested for giving pig ugly a bad name’.

Will that do seeing as you asked for examples?

Oh and apparently I’m ‘precious’ which, coming from someone whose avatar looks like Gollum posing with his big white BMW(?) I decided was just vaguely ironic.

Have a look at the thread and, Tricky and Swale’s ongoing war of words apart, it was all quite civil, constructive even, without you.

Personally I don't give a monkeys what Swale thinks.

He could start an argument in a phone box or with his shadow.
Swale is a precis version of narcissist,

[Geoff Parkstone]

rA "Oh and apparently I’m ‘precious’ which, coming from someone whose avatar looks like Gollum posing with his big white BMW(?) I decided was just vaguely ironic."

Oi now that's a step too far, leave the avatar alone

[ramAnag]

What he stands for is...........
1. an outlet to vent your fury at self serving politicians
2. the chance to force change in political parties
3. the chance to cripple MP's ignoring public opinion

Yes, voting for him causes trouble. But nothing changes without pain.
I for one am sick to death with the way politics has gone over the last 20 years.
Lining their own nests/ignoring voters/lying/breaking the law without fear

I hoped the other parties would wake up and change at the threat the Brexit party posed.
But no, just like the EU they refuse to reform.

Tories- May/Johnson/hunt spare me.
Liebour, Corbyn/Abbott/McDonnall, the most native hating politicians ever
Lib Dims- Lying Cable, now in bed with turncoat hokey cokey Chukka. About as trust worthy as a used condom.

So what does he stand for?
Listen to voters. Do what is asked of you. That's why you are voted in. It's a principle Soubry has never understood.

But Tricky, Farage is the most ‘self serving’ and ‘nest feathering’ of the lot.

[Trickytreesreds]

But Tricky, Farage is the most ‘self serving’ and ‘nest feathering’ of the lot.

Maybe he is, maybe he isn't.
But he is at least trying to enact what folks have asked for.
Unlike most politicians as well, he at least has had a job.

So, who's you choice RA?
Who has the credibility to govern with out me taking the piss. Please don't say Cable. He's a lying **** as well.

[ramAnag]

Maybe he is, maybe he isn't.
But he is at least trying to enact what folks have asked for.
Unlike most politicians as well, he at least has had a job.

So, who's you choice RA?
Who has the credibility to govern with out me taking the piss. Please don't say Cable. He's a lying **** as well.

I like Cable, but weirdly he’s the one person you and Swale agree about and anyway he’s about to be replaced so he’s a non runner.

I also like Keir Starmer and would welcome the return of David Miliband.

Choosing between Johnson and Hunt really is a case of the lesser of two evils but I’d prefer Hunt...just!

I share your distaste for the political system and the majority of politicians but I’d go for any of the above (and Corbyn) over Farage who I think is the biggest and most disingenuous political conman of all time.

Pity that yet again all the contenders are men. There are some good women in Westminster but unfortunately the two original Tory female candidates were, imo, an insult to humanity - let alone womankind - and, again imo, Jo Swinson has a long way to go before she’ll be ready to lead a Party let alone the country.

[Trickytreesreds]

https://www.facebook.com/NyeBevanNews/videos/2245545698824440/?v=2245545698824440

Cable a joke of a man

[mistaram]

Maybe he is, maybe he isn't.
But he is at least trying to enact what folks have asked for.
Unlike most politicians as well, he at least has had a job.

So, who's you choice RA?
Who has the credibility to govern with out me taking the piss. Please don't say Cable. He's a lying **** as well.

Certainly won't be Farage you have to win a seat first and that's never going to happen

[Trickytreesreds]

Certainly won't be Farage you have to win a seat first and that's never going to happen

I think you miss my point MR.
The Brexit party exists to stir the nest up. It needs it.
They still aren't learning, so Farage will carry on pulling support.
Be careful here, no one said Trump ever had a chance or Leicester of winning the Prem.

So, who's your choice? Amuse me.

[ramAnag]

‘The Brexit Party exists to stir’...you said it!

One policy...no solutions...no answers...just stirrers financed by mystery backers and led by an ex banker who’s become very rich while being entitled to a gold plated EU pension from the organisation he allegedly despises.
Such an easy role...how come you fall for it?