OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

[ramAnag]

It’s overreaching it’s brief RA, from reflecting the nation to trying to mould it, in many ways. I have resisted giving specifics in the past simply because I do t want to come over like TTR. Not to say it doesn’t also do a fantastic value for money job elsewhere, and I don’t agree with the Adi approach of boycotting the license fee, I’d pay it for the cricket coverage alone. And I’m not especially saying this from a left/right viewpoint although their anti Brexit stance is laughably opaque.

Without ‘giving specifics’ it’s difficult to know exactly what you mean, Andy.
I’d guess you’re referring to the abundance of plot lines about such politically correct themes as anti racism and opposing homophobia etc...but then, imo, that makes them a force for good.

Besides, going back to the days of ‘Dixon of Dock Green’ and ‘Dr. Finlay’s Casebook’, hasn’t the BBC always tried to support the values of tolerance and decency? Maybe that’s why it was called ‘Aunty’...we just live in more complex times.

Agree totally about the radio cricket coverage, it’s been brilliant...but I have no idea what you mean about the BBC’s ‘anti Brexit stance being laughably opaque’. I think most political commentators are objectively opposed to Brexit, if a little confused by the ‘challenge to democracy’ aspect...but surely you’d want any perceived ‘stance’ to be ‘opaque’.

[Geoff Parkstone]

BBC cricket commentary on the radio has been brilliant since I first discovered it in the mid 1960s, let alone the last 2 weeks

[macstheman]

Where's the cake??

[AngryRam]

Where's the cake??

Where's the poo.. Brussels?

[Trickytreesreds]

I honestly don’t get all this BBC vilification. For as long as I can remember people from Harold Wilson to Margaret Thatcher, Lenny Henry to Nigel Farage have moaned about BBC bias.
Just this week Andy has been critical of them publicising the current World Cup too much...they’ve got the broadcasting rights, what do you expect?
Yes I’ve seen Andrew Marr give Farage a hard time, but I’ve also seen Jeremy Corbyn and other politicians of all persuasions laid into equally strongly and probably the two ‘politicians’ that have had the hardest time on Question Time are those diametric opposites...Dianne Abbott and Nick Griffin.
If you want real bias look at the Express, the Mail and the Sun or across the ‘pond’...Fox News or CNN.
Personally I think the BBC does a better job than most. Its job is to provide balanced impartial reflection both politically and via programme planning.
It’s not perfect but the fact that people on both the left and the right appear to protest with equal vehemence tells its own story to me.

If you don't get it, then it's agenda must suit your leanings.

Don't take my word for it, read it yourself.

https://biasedbbc.org/quotes-of-shame/

[ramAnag]

‘If you don’t get it then it’s agenda must suit your leanings.’

No chance of that working the other way round then?

[Trickytreesreds]

‘If you don’t get it then it’s agenda must suit your leanings.’

No chance of that working the other way round then?

not at all.
The BBC claims to be neutral.
But read the quotes from folks having dealings with them.

soft left is center ground to them
Center ground is far right to them.

How exactly does that suit my leanings?

May I remind everyone that this is a tax funded organisation. Any leanings are not fair and that's why it should be a chose to pay situation.

[Trickytreesreds]

If ever you needed evidence of the EU bullying other countries who aren't even "locked " into their club, this is it.

https://news.sky.com/story/no-deal-default-looms-in-eu-switzerland-trade-row-11749488

All the bull about we are aren't even in Schengen/the euro/we have a veto etc. Keep deluding yourself.

If you are in Europe and deal with the EU you will obey and by hook or crook. Be slowly sucked in.
Empire it is.

[swaledale]

Managed to last 20 minutes of lecturing by BBC news at 10 this evening, reminded me of why I stopped following. How a publicly funded organisation can be so biased is appalling, it reminds me of USA news but without the adverts. If it wasn't for MotD or Spring watch I think I'd cancel my license

Yes but the funny thing is its biased towards Brexit more often than not as it turns itself into knots trying to be objective and balanced, but guess thats not what you mean as most leavers seem to find anything that points out the facts (i.e. how disastrous a no deal Brexit would be and how difficult it actually is , has been and will be to negotiate with the EU, given they know thats a fact) is biased still keep the faith I'm sure your right.

[swaledale]

If ever you needed evidence of the EU bullying other countries who aren't even "locked " into their club, this is it.

https://news.sky.com/story/no-deal-default-looms-in-eu-switzerland-trade-row-11749488

All the bull about we are aren't even in Schengen/the euro/we have a veto etc. Keep deluding yourself.

If you are in Europe and deal with the EU you will obey and by hook or crook. Be slowly sucked in.
Empire it is.

Absolute *******s not supported by any actual facts as usual! Still you believe what you want to, thats the brexiteers way, disregard what the actual reality is, because after all it doesn't fit with your warped view of the world..up the empire obvs

[Manofpride]

Just hoping now for Boris to get in and finish the job on the 31st October, all the propaganda and delaying tactics from the remainers now needs to stop and let the UK do what the majority of it's people voted for and that's to leave with a good deal or without a deal.
I'm not a Boris fan but I think he'll have us out on the 31st!

[ramAnag]

Just hoping now for Boris to get in and finish the job on the 31st October, all the propaganda and delaying tactics from the remainers now needs to stop and let the UK do what the majority of it's people voted for and that's to leave with a good deal or without a deal.
I'm not a Boris fan but I think he'll have us out on the 31st!

Doesn’t matter how often you say it MoP...a majority of the UK’s people didn’t even vote ‘Leave’ let alone for a ‘no deal’ Brexit.

What makes you think bombastic Boris can get something so far unacceptable to Parliament through that very same Parliament and please don’t tell me that that walking anachronism Rees-Mogg is going to be any help at the negotiating table.

[Trickytreesreds]

Absolute *******s not supported by any actual facts as usual! Still you believe what you want to, thats the brexiteers way, disregard what the actual reality is, because after all it doesn't fit with your warped view of the world..up the empire obvs

Ay up. Swales been released from his angry box.
Still waiting for your words of wisdom Swale, as to whom we should all be hailing as the messiah.

C'mon, enthrall me.

[Manofpride]

Doesn’t matter how often you say it MoP...a majority of the UK’s people didn’t even vote ‘Leave’ let alone for a ‘no deal’ Brexit.

What makes you think bombastic Boris can get something so far unacceptable to Parliament through that very same Parliament and please don’t tell me that that walking anachronism Rees-Mogg is going to be any help at the negotiating table.

The people that matter RA are the ones that voted, everyone had a chance but some preferred to sit on their fat arses. The majority of UK's people that voted, voted to leave, if it had been the other way round the remainers and leavers would have accepted it. Boris now has to go back to the negotiating table with or without Jacob and try and get a better deal, if all fails leave without one. Then we can all start to work together and concentrate on getting the country back on it's feet!

[ramAnag]

We run the risk of going round in circles again, MoP, but it seems unfair to me to dismiss all those who couldn’t/didn’t vote as sitting on their ‘fat arses’. Doubtless some couldn’t be bothered but there may have been many other genuine reasons.

Either way you’re wrong on two counts...as I said - and I know you and NF don’t want to hear it - the majority of the UK’s people did not vote to leave. To say otherwise is just untrue.
No one ever voted for a ‘no deal’ Brexit...it was all going to be so ‘easy’...so what Johnson - if he gets ‘elected’ - is now considering he has absolutely no mandate for.