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[Geoff Parkstone]

I’m not sure what Swale’s occupation was...some sort of accountancy I think, which I’m sure you understand better than I.
Making money ‘out of Brexit’, by preparing companies/people for what, at the time, was the forthcoming nightmare of Brexit seems perfectly reasonable to me.
Doctors help people deal with their health problems. Teachers help people with their education/educational difficulties. Swale was, using his training and insight, helping companies to cope with the financial/legal threat posed by Brexit. He might go on about it a bit to wind people up but, personally, I see nothing wrong or immoral about that.

You're right, it would be interesting to know what skillset Swale brought to the table, but I've never seen him as an accountant, not a lawyer given some of his assertion. Quite possibly in compliance which would fit with a Brexit role? Whatever, I still find it amoral.

[Andy_Faber]

Criticising Swale for making a living out of preparing companies for the pitfalls of Brexit is a little like criticising me for making a living out of illiteracy, defending abused children and maladjustment, or a doctor for prospering out of ill health. Utterly senseless.

As usual you haven’t read the op. I specifically wasn’t criticising him

[swaledale]

No its not......your examples of doctors and teachers are doing what they have trained for and do every day of their working life, one way or another. Making money out of Brexit is one off opportunism. I'm sure you support the concept of helping the infirm or the abused. in your examples, whereas I'm equally sure Swale didn't support the process that generated his "enhanced pension".

I also live with the inconveniences and negative aspects of Brexit, not much I can do about that is there? It wasn't one off opportunism, it was merely an an additional line of work that was created through something I didn't agree with, but is a reality, or was going to become a reality. Your criticism implies that nobody would work in an area where they didn't agree with a government policy or the effects of that policy, pretty sure rA had to deal with and work with government policies he didn't necessarily agree with in his career. Not sure what the difference is to be honest.

I take it then, as your the one being critical, that throughout your working lie, you were never involved in working with somebody or organisation or with a government policy that if looked at in moral terms you didn't agree with?

I can guarantee you have, because its virtually impossible to avoid doing so, given governments introduce stuff, which effects many jobs or lives and one has no choice but to work with it. One can as far as one knows avoid working for arms dealers, Russian Oligarchs, tobacco companies etc. though even then it can be tricky untangling all the connections.

Anyway my work was to help people mitigate the effects of Brexit, it wasn't helping to implement it, so your rather wide of the mark in your criticism.

By way rA my work was to do with the the practicalities of setting up subsidiary companies, legal structures and transferring or recruiting staff to them and what would be required to continue to trade with the EU. That was particularly complicated when you had components or raw materials coming in from outside the EU and then selling the finished product within the EU. But also difficult for financial services seeing as the UK government has still yet to agree "equivalence" on this with the EU.

[ramAnag]

As usual you haven’t read the op. I specifically wasn’t criticising him

Lol...and as you’ve made it personal, as usual you think it’s all about you. It isn’t and I was referring to GP’s post (8506).

Oh...and Tricky...seeing as Swale does get angrier (aka more frustrated by stupidity) than most on here and you and GP regularly suggest that he’s had one too many/started early I think my guess was correct. Of course, if it wasn’t, feel free to clarify who you were referring to.

[swaledale]

You're right, it would be interesting to know what skillset Swale brought to the table, but I've never seen him as an accountant, not a lawyer given some of his assertion. Quite possibly in compliance which would fit with a Brexit role? Whatever, I still find it amoral.

Explain how its amoral? You not making sense here, if I didn't work (and your correct it was basically compliance, company structures and so on) on areas connected to government policy that I didn't agree with, I'd have hardly worked!! If I'd been helping to implement Brexit then I'd see your point, but I think your way off beam here. It might be a touch hypocritical, but in reality, we all have to work within the policies that government implements. like them or loath them.

[Andy_Faber]

throughout your working lie

was that a slip of the pen or an insight into GP?

[Trickytreesreds]

Lol...and as you’ve made it personal, as usual you think it’s all about you. It isn’t and I was referring to GP’s post (8506).

Oh...and Tricky...seeing as Swale does get angrier (aka more frustrated by stupidity) than most on here and you and GP regularly suggest that he’s had one too many/started early I think my guess was correct. Of course, if it wasn’t, feel free to clarify who you were referring to.

So your deductions aimed it at your chosen nominee?
Must be if the cap fits then.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Lol...and as you’ve made it personal, as usual you think it’s all about you. It isn’t and I was referring to GP’s post (8506).

Oh...and Tricky...seeing as Swale does get angrier (aka more frustrated by stupidity) than most on here and you and GP regularly suggest that he’s had one too many/started early I think my guess was correct. Of course, if it wasn’t, feel free to clarify who you were referring to.

Was it Jim Reeves who sang about the sound of distant drums? I fear I'm detecting the sound of distant (rear) guns again 😄

[ramAnag]

So your deductions aimed it at your chosen nominee?
Must be if the cap fits then.

Pitiful...so come on then...who’s your ‘angry alky’? Time to put up...or shut up.

[ramAnag]

Was it Jim Reeves who sang about the sound of distant drums? I fear I'm detecting the sound of distant (rear) guns again ��

Oh please. Even you’re better than that.
People speak in defence of others and attack others on here all the time. Tbh I’m amazed you didn’t apply it to my defence of Sith earlier on. AF regularly defends Tricky, though noticeably not today...you TTR and AF regularly attack, very ineffectively, both Swale and myself. MA often, understandably, has a go at your more insensitive and facile comments and AF currently seems ‘besotted’ with Ramshank...and yet the ridiculous rear gunner thing is only ever connected with me.
I couldn’t really care less, it’s just tiresome...but if that’s the best you can do then your best ain’t up to much.

[Ramshank72]

I always only had eyes for you RamAnag! X

[Geoff Parkstone]

Is he a Flamingo?

[ramAnag]

I always only had eyes for you RamAnag! X

[Trickytreesreds]

Pitiful...so come on then...who’s your ‘angry alky’? Time to put up...or shut up.

Don't drink and fly

[swaledale]

Was it Jim Reeves who sang about the sound of distant drums? I fear I'm detecting the sound of distant (rear) guns again ��

Oh dear, having been put on the spot, your trying deflection tactics I see. You also haven't been able to explain your assertion about it being amoral.

Lets take another example, say I run a business and at the same time campaign against Brexit. Now say by some miracle I find that Brexit has opened up a new and lucrative opportunity for my business (yes I know one would have to be very dim or just naïve to even think this could happen but bear with) and I take full opportunity and make millions from this.

By your judgement is that amoral? On the basis I was against Brexit, but now its happened have managed to profit from it, or simply doing the best for my business in the reality of the situation that I had no choice but to operate in?

I mean the answer is very simple, but who knows you may have a different one!