Election Year or Fear!

[Trickytreesreds]

Councillor Edwards not a happy man

https://x.com/dearbrit_ian/status/1870868736443302115

[ramAnag]

Indeed.

Saved money how|? Would you like the list of where Labout have thrown money ? Saved 1,8 Billion, when really only half of that should have been stopped. Yet GB energy/ climate aid abroad/ money for foreign farmers/ aid to islamists in Syria and on and on and on. Billions on nothing.
Shafted pensioners/ waspi women/ farmers/ small businesses. Yay for your hero.
His popularity rating falls through the floor and the country is going back wards.

Deny what you want, Reform worries STARMER TO DEATH.
Another day and another thumping defeat for Keir Starmer. This time, it?s for one of three seats in the previously safe ward of Brockmoor and Pensnett in Dudley. Labour previously won here in July with almost 64 per cent of the vote. But, this morning, it transpires that they have now slumped to third in the West Midlands, winning just 28.9 per cent of ballots cast. The party?s candidate, Karen Jordan, finished beneath both Reform?s Richard Tasker and the Tories? Alex Dale, who won on 35.4 per cent. Talk about a three-way split.

Such is the anger of the local Labour group at the loss of this seat that one of Karen Jordan?s colleagues has now taken to social media to vent his displeasure. Councillor Steve Edwards, who is one of the three councillors in Brockmoor and Pensnett, wrote on Facebook that on the doorstep the ?overriding message? is ?anti Starmer and rightly so. https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...election-loss/


HO HO HO

Tricky:
1) I haven’t mentioned the words ‘saved money’.
2) I haven’t suggested that Reform isn’t a ‘worry’ for Starmer, although given the size of Labour’s majority it certainly isn’t an imminent worry is it?

What I said was that in many cases the WFA money that found its way into the pockets of the comfortably/very well off could be better directed elsewhere.
What I will further add is that anyone who believes Farage/Reform offer any sort of beacon of hope is sadly misguided.

If you’re going to try and take me to task at least challenge what I’ve actually said not what you want me to have said. Until then, bye.

P.S. POI. Starmer isn’t, and never has been, my hero. Tbh he’s a bit of a disappointment but still a huge improvement on anything else we’ve had in the last decade or more.

[Andy_Faber]

MERRY CHRISTMAS from the CHAMPIONS LEAGUE places. xxx

Tricky remember you?re here under sufference, and remember also my moderator rules ?(I?ll sanction) anyone who pisses me off, especially Tricky on any football issues?.

[ramAnag]

Tricky remember you?re here under sufference, and remember also my moderator rules ?(I?ll sanction) anyone who pisses me off, especially Tricky on any football issues?.

Oh let him have his moment in the sun, AF. It’s Christmas and, to the best of my knowledge, no team has ever qualified for the CL at Christmas with over half the season still to come. Normal service will be restored.

[SithHappens]

Oh let him have his moment in the sun, AF. It’s Christmas and, to the best of my knowledge, no team has ever qualified for the CL at Christmas with over half the season still to come. Normal service will be restored.

Part of me wants to see them qualify, because it will fully test Uefas resolve around multi club ownership. The rules currently would prohibit both olympiakos and forest competing in the Champions league.

As it stands marinakis would have to choose to either relegate olympiakos or forest to the europa or assign full control over to a third party.

I suspect it would be the latter and it would be a meaningless piece of paper and the management of the club by said third party would be in name only.

[SithHappens]

Had to admit i thought Farages 'Guess who has come to Clacton ' post with santa was quite funny, opened himself up for some stick for that one.

[Trickytreesreds]

Part of me wants to see them qualify, because it will fully test Uefas resolve around multi club ownership. The rules currently would prohibit both olympiakos and forest competing in the Champions league.

As it stands marinakis would have to choose to either relegate olympiakos or forest to the europa or assign full control over to a third party.

I suspect it would be the latter and it would be a meaningless piece of paper and the management of the club by said third party would be in name only.

That is exactly what would happen as it already is.

Nottingham Forest have announced the appointment of Lina Souloukou as the club's new CEO from 5 January 2025. As the former CEO of Roma, Souloukou has represented the Italian side and Forest owner Evangelos Marinakis' Olympiakos on the board of the European Club Association (ECA).

Edu Gaspar is widely considered to have done a good job at Arsenal since he returned to the club to help with transfers and player relations.

He’d previously been helping player relations, and solving problems, for Brazil’s national team. That added to his career as a player gave him an endless contacts lists and Arsenal have been able to use that since.

Mikel Arteta has repeatedly credited Edu for part of his own success with the Gunners and an Arsenal exit would be a surprise. However, there’s now a report from UOL in Brazil that Nottingham Forest’s owner Evangelos Marinakis wants to take him as a ‘sort of CEO’ to work as his right-hand man across his football interests.


Multi club ownership, is becoming more common.
Its also helps with bringing on new young players and also FFP

One thing, no can deny with the Arabs and folks like Marinakis, they are world wide business people, and football is now a business on that level.

[MadAmster]

How did Admin allow a political thread to degenerate into a football related discussion?

Merry Xmas one and all

[SithHappens]

How did Admin allow a political thread to degenerate into a football related discussion?

Merry Xmas one and all

Technically football politics so it's ok lol

[SithHappens]

X.com is littered with posts from Musk calling for a UK election, also being supportive of Tommy Robinson and of course Nigel Farage.

What's his aim, what's he planning to get out of his attempt to put Farage in No 10?

[ramAnag]

X.com is littered with posts from Musk calling for a UK election, also being supportive of Tommy Robinson and of course Nigel Farage.

What's his aim, what's he planning to get out of his attempt to put Farage in No 10?

He’s a very dangerous and irresponsible, but clearly intelligent, individual, Sith, who now has a taste for political interference following his recent success with the Trump campaign.

His aim, again imo, is to destabilise any government or individual politicians who don’t share his right wing view of the world and replace them with those who do. Given his astronomical level of wealth and ownership of X I fear we are entering particularly dangerous and concerning times which will indeed most likely see Farage as much more influential within British politics than he might otherwise have been.

[MadAmster]

He’s a very dangerous and irresponsible, but clearly intelligent, individual, Sith, who now has a taste for political interference following his recent success with the Trump campaign.

His aim, again imo, is to destabilise any government or individual politicians who don’t share his right wing view of the world and replace them with those who do. Given his astronomical level of wealth and ownership of X I fear we are entering particularly dangerous and concerning times which will indeed most likely see Farage as much more influential within British politics than he might otherwise have been.

It's all starting to sound all conspiratorial but...

The "1%" got a taste for power and have had politicians in their back pockets for a while. WEF is an extension of that "process" with their "15 minute cities" and "you'll own nothing an be happy" BS. Trump said to Christians and Evangelists in the USA, vote for me now and you won't have to in 4 years time which reeks of a dictatorship in the making. Musk? Never had a brainwave in his life. Inherited an emerald mine which made him rich. Tesla was founded by 2 intelligent chaps who came up short on the readies and Musk bought his way into. SpaceX has a similar story. Now he's the richest man on the planet and believes his own BS and wants to rule but will have to wait until Trump passes. "They" are just about ready to launch their own "revolution" which is actually more of an "evolution" as it's a plan slowly coming to fruition rather than "peasants at the gates".

This may all sound a tad melodramatic but I don't think I'm far off course with this. Will they succeed? I sincerely hope not but 95% of mankind is sleepwalking into whatever it's going to be.

[ramAnag]

It's all starting to sound all conspiratorial but...

The "1%" got a taste for power and have had politicians in their back pockets for a while. WEF is an extension of that "process" with their "15 minute cities" and "you'll own nothing an be happy" BS. Trump said to Christians and Evangelists in the USA, vote for me now and you won't have to in 4 years time which reeks of a dictatorship in the making. Musk? Never had a brainwave in his life. Inherited an emerald mine which made him rich. Tesla was founded by 2 intelligent chaps who came up short on the readies and Musk bought his way into. SpaceX has a similar story. Now he's the richest man on the planet and believes his own BS and wants to rule but will have to wait until Trump passes. "They" are just about ready to launch their own "revolution" which is actually more of an "evolution" as it's a plan slowly coming to fruition rather than "peasants at the gates".

This may all sound a tad melodramatic but I don't think I'm far off course with this. Will they succeed? I sincerely hope not but 95% of mankind is sleepwalking into whatever it's going to be.

Love all of that to be true, MA…but although his dad had some involvement with the emerald business it seems doubtful that Musk Jnr. inherited huge wealth from his parents. I can’t find any evidence that he inherited an emerald mine and he does seem to to have a very capable business brain although not one that appears capable of managing morality.
At the risk of adding to the melodrama, I’m not certain he’ll wait till ‘Trump’s passing’. Maybe hasten it, but questions remain as to whether, being South African born, he’d be eligible to stand as POTUS.

[MadAmster]

Love all of that to be true, MA…but although his dad had some involvement with the emerald business it seems doubtful that Musk Jnr. inherited huge wealth from his parents. I can’t find any evidence that he inherited an emerald mine and he does seem to to have a very capable business brain although not one that appears capable of managing morality.
At the risk of adding to the melodrama, I’m not certain he’ll wait till ‘Trump’s passing’. Maybe hasten it, but questions remain as to whether, being South African born, he’d be eligible to stand as POTUS.

I, as ever, am happy to be corrected. However, he has 3 main businesses, Tesla, SpaceX and X, none of which he founded although he tells everybody he did. Much like Gates wasn't the original genius behind Microsoft...

[swaledale]

It's all starting to sound all conspiratorial but...

The "1%" got a taste for power and have had politicians in their back pockets for a while. WEF is an extension of that "process" with their "15 minute cities" and "you'll own nothing an be happy" BS. Trump said to Christians and Evangelists in the USA, vote for me now and you won't have to in 4 years time which reeks of a dictatorship in the making. Musk? Never had a brainwave in his life. Inherited an emerald mine which made him rich. Tesla was founded by 2 intelligent chaps who came up short on the readies and Musk bought his way into. SpaceX has a similar story. Now he's the richest man on the planet and believes his own BS and wants to rule but will have to wait until Trump passes. "They" are just about ready to launch their own "revolution" which is actually more of an "evolution" as it's a plan slowly coming to fruition rather than "peasants at the gates".

This may all sound a tad melodramatic but I don't think I'm far off course with this. Will they succeed? I sincerely hope not but 95% of mankind is sleepwalking into whatever it's going to be.

MA you've been reading too many conspiracy theories with regards to 15 min cities. The concept is a sound one, plan for all amenities, services schools etc. to be within a roughly 15 min journey from home, meaning less reliance on the car which has choked cities and in its internal combustion from killed people.

Sound thinking and a reversal of policy which to date has seen out of town shopping centres and isolated estates which force people to use the car.

Your completely right about Musk, obviously not thick, but he has been financially savvy, not a an innovator, first thing the Uk government needs to do is, tighten the rules on foreign funding of politicians and political parties (whole sale reform required in reality which limits donations.). After that, follow Brazil's example and crack down on X, either Musk removes those and similar posts or its taken off air. Its become a propaganda tool for Musk and others to spread lies and disinformation, it needs to be stopped now.