Election Year or Fear!

[swaledale]

OK thats cleared that up although I'm not sure what provenance your 'far from it' has. Some on here (not sure if that includes you) have asserted that all the 'Unite The Nation' marchers were 'far right', similarly without provenance. Likewise all Brexit voters and all MAGA hat wearers are 'idiots'. Just looking for balance/clarity, 'influencers' that we all are

Balance? Coming from someone who as far as I am aware, has not mentioned anything negative with Trump's recent foray into promoting "world peace", who got hot and heavy when I accidentally posted that 40% of those attending the disgraceful riots, supposedly in defence of women and children, were known to the Police for actual offences or suspected offences of child abuse, domestic abuse and ***ual assault as against 40% of those arrested, though given the angle you often push, one might reasonably suspect that the 40% was a reasonable indication that a fair percentage of those not arrested had similar issues!

Who cites "lived experience" as sufficient proof that the citizens of Great yarmouth, with a very small perecentage ethnic/immigrant population had been impacted significantly by immigration.

Who expressed the view that Charlie Kirk merely debated a different view, rather than spread deeply offensive and discriminatory, white nationalist, homophobic, right wing propoganda.

Your balance apperas to be ensuring that a populist, racist, xenophobic and in some cases outright facist view is presented.

Not a good look really.

[swaledale]

Unusual amount of ‘whataboutery’ there for you, AF.
Generally and widely accepted that Islamists represent only a small percentage of the 2 billion Muslims in the world and that is the only point I was making, although I do have to agree…all MAGA hat wearers/supporters are indeed ‘idiots’…a sentiment that seems to be becoming clearer every day.

The MAGA apologist on this Forum RA!

[swaledale]

Now Trump has apparently had a phone call with his mate Putin and is suggesting that sanctions be lifted with regard to Russian oil and gas???

This is the same Putin who has a military cooperation agreement with Iran???


WTF is going on here?

[swaledale]

Some journalists investigating the Epstein files, noticed that the numbers of the documents published didn't increment properly. There were gaps suggesting that some documents had been left out. They questioned and harried and eventually "found" the missing documents. All of which, allegedly aren't favourable to 47. 4 of the documents were FBI interviews with a woman claiming that she had been expected to give the bloke a blow job but bit it instead. She was 13 at the time. Those "in the know" about these things have said that the FBI must have considered her a credible witness or they wouldn't have had 4 interviews with her.

Meanwhile the world faces economic and security chaos in part to draw attention from what hasn't been released in the Epstein files that involves Trump?

[Andy_Faber]

The MAGA apologist on this Forum RA!

Yawn, when reason is exhausted name calling starts. It’s been your way for over a decade, and please feel free to have the last word you crave

[Ram Pant]

Trump's latest word salad included "those killed by roadside bombs are now walking around with no legs".

He really should be in a straightjacket.

[swaledale]

Trump's latest word salad included "those killed by roadside bombs are now walking around with no legs".

He really should be in a straightjacket.

The lunatics have taken over the US and regrettably its going to be everybody else in the world whoa re going to suffer!

I see that idiot Farage was doing one of his pathetic stunts yesterday, claiming that reform will instantly lower the cost of petrol and diesel, whilst ignoring the reason prices are rising due to his "mate" (the one that he flew to the US to meet, but who ignored him over the weekend!) starting a war without thinking about the wider consequences.

One really does have to be either thick, without moral compass or deluded to even consider voting for these dangerous bozos!

Of course I'm sure for the sake of balance an apologist for either of these deranged ****ers will be able to point to some positive action that either of these have taken simply for the benefit of others!

You know along the lines that Mussolini was a bad person, but at least he made the trains run on time!

[swaledale]

Yawn, when reason is exhausted name calling starts. It’s been your way for over a decade, and please feel free to have the last word you crave

Mm reason? Not seen a whole lot of sense, reason or indeed condemnation from you on recent events to be fair.

Name calling? You are very keen to be an apologist for both the MAGA cause and other right wing idiots, whilst offering absolutely no criticism of even certain actions. so describing you as a MAGA apologist is perfectly reasonable.

Whats been my way for over a decade is having no patience for people who spout rubbish or are unable to substantiate their views or claims with actual facts and evidence. I don't suffer fools gladly and I'm not particulary enamoured with people who defend actions which any reasonable person, whatever their political leaning, would roundly condemn.

I call a spade a spade, or in your case an uniformed, narrow minded bigoted, racist idiot who prefers to believe a false narrative that fits their agenda, rather than face facts.

Anyway, I'd refer you back a few posts where you challenged my assertion that anybody currently celebrating Trump's action in Iran was a fool! Mm your looking rather foolish now aren't you?

[swaledale]

Unusual amount of ?whataboutery? there for you, AF.
Generally and widely accepted that Islamists represent only a small percentage of the 2 billion Muslims in the world and that is the only point I was making, although I do have to agree?all MAGA hat wearers/supporters are indeed ?idiots??a sentiment that seems to be becoming clearer every day.

Your being unfair RA, not all MAGA supporters are idiots, a substantial number just see it as a way that furthers thier personal or business interests and have no thought to the negtaive effects as long as its not them that is affected. Though this foolish attack on Iran, might just alter their views a little if it ****s up the world economy!

[Ram Pant]

The lunatics have taken over the US and regrettably its going to be everybody else in the world whoa re going to suffer!

I see that idiot Farage was doing one of his pathetic stunts yesterday, claiming that reform will instantly lower the cost of petrol and diesel, whilst ignoring the reason prices are rising due to his "mate" (the one that he flew to the US to meet, but who ignored him over the weekend!) starting a war without thinking about the wider consequences.

One really does have to be either thick, without moral compass or deluded to even consider voting for these dangerous bozos!

Of course I'm sure for the sake of balance an apologist for either of these deranged ****ers will be able to point to some positive action that either of these have taken simply for the benefit of others!

You know along the lines that Mussolini was a bad person, but at least he made the trains run on time!

There's a fair few folks about who are of the opinion that the US attacked Iran because Israel told them to. Others use persuaded rather than told.

What's the truth? We don't know. Israel has been shouting that Iran was weeks away from having a nuclear bomb for at least 2 decades, IIRC.

I don't think many people expected Iran to bomb in retaliation Oman, UAE, Saudi, Turkey, Azerbaijan, Cyprus, Kuwait, Bahrain, Iraq. Have I missed any?

Straits of Hormuz closed. I don't suppose either of the 2 main aggressors saw that coming.

I gravely doubt there's an exit strategy, never was.

Now, it seems, America's richest people are telling Trump his little "excursion" is costing them money. Stock market is falling... so he's looking for a get out he doesn't seem able to find.

It's a chuffin' mess and those who started it don't know how to end it without losing face. In the case of 47, his approval ratings have plummeted further. Some commentators are saying that MAGA is done for. I, for one, cincerely hope so.

[swaledale]

I was in Great Yarmouth yesterday for 3 hours could have done a reverse Jenrick video, all the faces I saw were white! Disgraceful ina supposed multi cultural country!!

Of course I didn't venture into the notorious ghettos where AF found direct expereince of the negative impact immigration is having on the town.

[swaledale]

There's a fair few folks about who are of the opinion that the US attacked Iran because Israel told them to. Others use persuaded rather than told.

What's the truth? We don't know. Israel has been shouting that Iran was weeks away from having a nuclear bomb for at least 2 decades, IIRC.

I don't think many people expected Iran to bomb in retaliation Oman, UAE, Saudi, Turkey, Azerbaijan, Cyprus, Kuwait, Bahrain, Iraq. Have I missed any?

Straits of Hormuz closed. I don't suppose either of the 2 main aggressors saw that coming.

I gravely doubt there's an exit strategy, never was.

Now, it seems, America's richest people are telling Trump his little "excursion" is costing them money. Stock market is falling... so he's looking for a get out he doesn't seem able to find.

It's a chuffin' mess and those who started it don't know how to end it without losing face. In the case of 47, his approval ratings have plummeted further. Some commentators are saying that MAGA is done for. I, for one, cincerely hope so.

It seems they assumed that Iran would respond in the same way as they did last year when attacked. Perhaps nobody thought that assasinating the supreme leader, his family and followers would result in a different response from Iran?

To me it seemed fairly clear that Iran's main from of defence, given that the US weren't going to put "boots on the ground" was to create economic havoc around the area, knowing this would hurt the US and its followers were it hurts, financially.

How the US pulls back from this war, that apparently has been won, or almost won according to the orange buffoon remains to be seen. I guess those that supported or brown nosed the administration, might be a more than a little ruffled now their interests are threatened?

[swaledale]

Meanwhile both Bad enoch and Farage seemed to have done u turn on wholesale support of the 47 actions, presumably becuase they have realised the majority of their voters aren't in favour and certainy aren't prepared to suffer economically in a blind support of a war that the US and Israel started without any consultation?

[Ram Pant]

In Farridge's case, likely aided and abetted by his Mar-A-Lago disaster last week when he went all the way there to see 47 and Fanta Face wouldn't see him.

Then Orange one does occasionally do something that pushes my approval rating of him up from 0% to 0.1%

[Andy_Faber]

I was in Great Yarmouth yesterday for 3 hours could have done a reverse Jenrick video, all the faces I saw were white! Disgraceful ina supposed multi cultural country!!

Of course I didn't venture into the notorious ghettos where AF found direct expereince of the negative impact immigration is having on the town.

yawn again! I don't recall any reference by me of skin colour, which shows up your simplistic view of the issue, and the fact that you are profiling people by their appearance. Tut tut