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  • Originally posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
    It didn't take long for the new government to produce the "the Tories left it in a bigger mess than anyone thought" card, shortly to be followed by the "we'll have to increase taxes after all despite our promises" card in the immediate future.

    So transparent, so predictible. Reverse those NI cuts please.
    Yup, same **** different bucket. Predictable and boring.

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    • Originally posted by swaledale View Post
      Indeed they should be reversed, though the line from Labour is that "working people" whatever that means but is presumably a euphemism for "the average Jo or indeed Jean) won't see their taxes raised.

      Also if you recall Labour made no specific promise about not raising certain taxes, but did say that nothing in their manifesto required tax rises.

      Apparently this time t instead of one note saying there's no money left there were several.

      We have ignored pay recommendations by pay review bodies for public sector workers

      The prisons are full and we have done **** all to sort it

      The defence budget is woeful and we have done **** all to sort it

      Schools are crumbling, teachers are leaving in droves and we have done **** al to sort it

      We spent all the money on useless PPE provided by our mates instead of the NHS (but counted it as NHS spending

      The tax cuts we made were unfunded and the tax cuts we promised at the election even more so

      The water companies are ****ed and we have done **** all to sort it

      The Justice system is ****ed and we have done **** all to sort it

      The actual costs of the ludicrous Rwanda scheme are £700 million not £400 million

      There is no budget left to complete the fictitous 40 new hospitals

      I could go on but you get the drift!
      The main drift I get is that they’ve identified older folk as Tory voters so decided to kill them off through hypothermia. They might as well go full Nazi (your favourite analogy so if the cap fits) and put Zyklon B on free prescription

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      • That's a bummer that - it used to aid my Christmas wine budget. Honestly it was crazy that a household with say 400k annual income with 2 working pension aged people still got the WFA...

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        • Originally posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
          That's a bummer that - it used to aid my Christmas wine budget. Honestly it was crazy that a household with say 400k annual income with 2 working pension aged people still got the WFA...
          only those on pensioners credit get it. Seeing as they are on half the income of someone on minimum wage, that's really low.
          How they can wipe out anyone above that, is criminal.

          Meanwhile DR's are getting a payrise, which will mean the Unions will be lining up for their clients.
          Get ready for Carry on at your convenience.

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          • Drs 22% over 2 years should stop the drain and persuade more to join.

            More blackholes left by the Blue Tories has seen the heating allowance for pensioners go.

            Then there's Trump who is now putting it out there "vote for me now and you won't have to vote again". Dictatorship?

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            • Originally posted by MadAmster View Post
              Drs 22% over 2 years should stop the drain and persuade more to join.

              More blackholes left by the Blue Tories has seen the heating allowance for pensioners go.

              Then there's Trump who is now putting it out there "vote for me now and you won't have to vote again". Dictatorship?
              Armageddon?

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              • There are no black holes left by the Tories that Labour didn't know about.
                They had full access to that data before the election. They lied, as all politicians do.
                So its rob Peter to pay Paul.
                Only your Granny will be freezing her tits off come Xmas.

                in 3 weeks the civil unrest has shot up and the financial pain hasn't even started.

                Saddle up, lock and load.

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                • Originally posted by Andy_Faber View Post
                  The main drift I get is that they’ve identified older folk as Tory voters so decided to kill them off through hypothermia. They might as well go full Nazi (your favourite analogy so if the cap fits) and put Zyklon B on free prescription
                  Bit over the top on the hyperbole even for you? They have identified that many relatively well off older persons including myself, don't need the payment. About time it was targeted at those that actually need it.

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                  • Originally posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
                    There are no black holes left by the Tories that Labour didn't know about.
                    They had full access to that data before the election. They lied, as all politicians do.
                    So its rob Peter to pay Paul.
                    Only your Granny will be freezing her tits off come Xmas.

                    in 3 weeks the civil unrest has shot up and the financial pain hasn't even started.

                    Saddle up, lock and load.
                    More *******s again, if you did your research you would know your wrong, but hey its not stopped you before, so I guess old habits die hard.

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                    • Originally posted by swaledale View Post
                      More *******s again, if you did your research you would know your wrong, but hey its not stopped you before, so I guess old habits die hard.
                      oh its facts and a back stab.
                      Meanwhile, rubber boat Abdul, will still get his 3 meals a day and free gas/leccy.
                      This lot will be a hopeless and clueless as the last, just accept it and stop denying it.

                      BTW pants on fire AGAIN!!!!

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                      • IT'S JUST LAUGHABLE.

                        14 years of tory rule blah blah
                        no one told us it was this bad blah blah ( i told you it was a reverse from the norm for Labour. Its normally feast then famine)
                        14 years of tory cuts? If there's no money left, someone has had it. blah blah

                        So exactly how is this nationalised railway going to come about? yOU HAVE TO BUY IT BACK LOL

                        Green madness money being sent abroad.

                        Meanwhile the loading with migration, keeps draining the pot unchecked.


                        Even Eamon Holmes talking sense. Better buckle up, this is going to get rough

                        'They SHOULDN'T be here!': Eamonn FUMES at BILLIONS spent on ILLEGAL migrants while OAP benefits CUT Eamonn Holmes says migration to the UK is 'out of control'.
                        Last edited by Trickytreesreds; 30-07-2024, 07:15 AM.

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                        • Railway? Simple. In the near future, the contracts expire. No new ones will be given. Therefore no business to buy out, only rolling stock. No need for taxpayers to pay shareholder dividends via the subsidies the rail companies get.

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                          • Which will f*** the pensioners again as their private pensions will likely be the biggest holders of rail (and water, when that follows) shares.

                            There's no such thing as a free lunch, just less obviously visible losers.

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                            • To use MA's phrase, the Red Tories are proving to be as bad as the Blue Tories. Liars, tick already. Incompetent nincompoops, jury's out. Immoral, they'll have to go some to match Boris and crew but hey they have five years. Reeves cold be the Smiling Assassin if she ever cracked a smile

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                              • Originally posted by Andy_Faber View Post
                                To use MA's phrase, the Red Tories are proving to be as bad as the Blue Tories. Liars, tick already. Incompetent nincompoops, jury's out. Immoral, they'll have to go some to match Boris and crew but hey they have five years. Reeves cold be the Smiling Assassin if she ever cracked a smile
                                I’m away and busy so not taken much notice…but ‘Liars’…why? Reeves, ‘the smiling assassin’…why?
                                Gather that our winter fuel allowance has gone. Not the best of news but let’s face it…it was always targeted incorrectly in terms of need and as a vote winner from the ‘grey vote’.
                                If it allows ‘benefits’ to be targeted more appropriately then it’ll make me £200-£300 per year worse off but that doesn’t seem unreasonable in the circumstances.

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