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[Andy_Faber]

If the reaction of a professionally trained armed Police officer to an incident and certainly given the person he kicked had been tasered, doesn't fill people with concern, then they have clearly forgotten the actions by other individuals who were fire arms officers which resulted in the rape and death of one woman and multiple rapes, coercive behaviour of other women.

Still its good to see Thicky demonstrating the depth of his misogynism with his "pathetic women police officers" comment, merely confirms that he is a very sad and rather nasty individual as previously stated.

TTR’s words were I’ll chosen but I’d suggest that in view of what I understand to be the buildup to the incident and what police may have known about the perps, deploying female officers may have been a mistake.

[MadAmster]

On a lighter note I just tried to upload an image but it seems you can no longer upload a file from your computer, you can only add pic via its URL? is this so or is it just me

Something I have mentioned on several occasions. AF has reported it to HQ but these things seem to take a long time. I've also had URLs that wont load as an image so I've merely posted the url without using the IMG button meaning folk have to click on the url rather than the image simply appearing in the post.

[ramAnag]

TTR’s words were I’ll chosen but I’d suggest that in view of what I understand to be the buildup to the incident and what police may have known about the perps, deploying female officers may have been a mistake.

I suspect in your, well intentioned and understandable if somewhat old fashioned, desire to ‘defend’ the female officers concerned you are overlooking the fact that modern well trained female police and prison officers are more than capable of handling the majority of men nowadays…but then I certainly don’t know what may have been known about the ‘perps’.

[Geoff Parkstone]

I think in these days of gender equality, female police officers are fair game for being smacked - so to me it doesnt matter the gender (or self identified gender etc etc) of the person assaulted. However had the person being smacked been Trans - in one way or another - Im sure the woke bleating about police retribution would have been caught between two stools of doubt as to who to defend

[Andy_Faber]

I suspect in your, well intentioned and understandable if somewhat old fashioned, desire to ‘defend’ the female officers concerned you are overlooking the fact that modern well trained female police and prison officers are more than capable of handling the majority of men nowadays…but then I certainly don’t know what may have been known about the ‘perps’.

It’s not old fashioned, it’s personal choice, clearly you don’t value the fairer *** as highly as I or anyone I know do.

Your point about training is a poor one in any case, any female policewoman as highly trained as any male policeman will still (with minimal exceptions) lack muscle mass

[ramAnag]

It’s not old fashioned, it’s personal choice, clearly you don’t value the fairer *** as highly as I or anyone I know do.

Your point about training is a poor one in any case, any female policewoman as highly trained as any male policeman will still (with minimal exceptions) lack muscle mass

I suspect you’re now guilty of a little attempted virtue signalling.
I abhor the ill treatment of women as much as anyone and value them very highly…however I’m not sufficiently patronising to argue that women who have CHOSEN to join the police or armed forces should be treated as less capable than their male counterparts.

[MadAmster]

I think in these days of gender equality, female police officers are fair game for being smacked - so to me it doesnt matter the gender (or self identified gender etc etc) of the person assaulted. However had the person being smacked been Trans - in one way or another - Im sure the woke bleating about police retribution would have been caught between two stools of doubt as to who to defend

Really? No police officer is fair game for being smacked.

[swaledale]

It’s not old fashioned, it’s personal choice, clearly you don’t value the fairer *** as highly as I or anyone I know do.

Your point about training is a poor one in any case, any female policewoman as highly trained as any male policeman will still (with minimal exceptions) lack muscle mass

Thickys words are deliberate, its how he thinks and why no right thinking UK woman will have anything to do with him.


I expected you to come out with your rather quaint and patronising patriarchal views on a woman's role in society. If one truly value women, then one would respect their choices and perhaps be slightly more aware that many neither need nor appreciate being patronised by gender stereotyping.

I'm sure the Police Officers concerned are more than cognisant with the risks of dealing with people and are well equipped to do so. Not sure muscle mass has very much to do with the impact of being struck in the face, whether one is male or female. I'm sure there are occasions when brute force may prevail, but in the vast majority of situations brains not brawn (and a baton or taser) is equally effective whatever the gender of the person wielding it.

[SithHappens]

Really? No police officer is fair game for being smacked.

Exactly.

[SithHappens]

Thickys words are deliberate, its how he thinks and why no right thinking UK woman will have anything to do with him.


I expected you to come out with your rather quaint and patronising patriarchal views on a woman's role in society. If one truly value women, then one would respect their choices and perhaps be slightly more aware that many neither need nor appreciate being patronised by gender stereotyping.

I'm sure the Police Officers concerned are more than cognisant with the risks of dealing with people and are well equipped to do so. Not sure muscle mass has very much to do with the impact of being struck in the face, whether one is male or female. I'm sure there are occasions when brute force may prevail, but in the vast majority of situations brains not brawn (and a baton or taser) is equally effective whatever the gender of the person wielding it.

I didn't read on beyond his 'pathetic' comment about the female police officers. Disgusting thing to say.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Exactly.

Yes maybe phrased badly - neither male nor female coppers should be treated that way, regardless of "gender", but those identifying as female have no more or less moral protection than their male counterpart

[MadAmster]

Yes maybe phrased badly - neither male nor female coppers should be treated that way, regardless of "gender", but those identifying as female have no more or less moral protection than their male counterpart

Really? That hole you're digging for yourself appears to be getting deeper and deeper.

I have no idea why you would choose to bring "identifying" into the conversation.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Because the offense took place against someone identifying as female didn't it?

This whole issue of treatment of people differently based on perceived gender is an intriguing one, reflecting traditional values vs women's rights vs gender identity. The idea that hitting a woman is somehow less acceptable than hitting a man seems outdated. Still more confused when you actually don't know if your target is male, female or other as self identified.

Yes it is inappropriate to assault anyone, whether they are doing their job or otherwise but to make that assault somehow less acceptable because it is made upon a woman (be they CIS or self identified) seems now to be outmoded in an era of gender equality.

Now if you throw the multiplicity of genders and ***es into the equation, how does the potential assailant understand who he can and cannot target without offending the contemporary moral compass.

The unfortunate perp would risk being cancelled for not treating all ***/genders equally when choosing his target for assault. Surely it's a woman's right to be hit as much as a man's?

You see where this is going now? Irony, sarcasm, a reflection on the peculiarities in the changing environment of human life and values.

Some might even regard it as humorous, although clearly not those on the other side of the Zuider Zee ☺️

[MadAmster]

Because the offense took place against someone identifying as female didn't it?

If that is so, I was unaware of it.

[ramAnag]

Because the offense took place against someone identifying as female didn't it?

This whole issue of treatment of people differently based on perceived gender is an intriguing one, reflecting traditional values vs women's rights vs gender identity. The idea that hitting a woman is somehow less acceptable than hitting a man seems outdated. Still more confused when you actually don't know if your target is male, female or other as self identified.

Yes it is inappropriate to assault anyone, whether they are doing their job or otherwise but to make that assault somehow less acceptable because it is made upon a woman (be they CIS or self identified) seems now to be outmoded in an era of gender equality.

Now if you throw the multiplicity of genders and ***es into the equation, how does the potential assailant understand who he can and cannot target without offending the contemporary moral compass.

The unfortunate perp would risk being cancelled for not treating all ***/genders equally when choosing his target for assault. Surely it's a woman's right to be hit as much as a man's?

You see where this is going now? Irony, sarcasm, a reflection on the peculiarities in the changing environment of human life and values.

Some might even regard it as humorous, although clearly not those on the other side of the Zuider Zee ☺️

Just as an aside…I would, I think, argue that there is no such thing as a ‘contemporary moral compass’ and that issues of morality actually transcend time.

I understand that things have generally become more complex of late - for a variety of reasons - however where one’s moral compass is concerned there are things which have always been defined simply as right and wrong and personally there has never been a time in my life when I have felt racism, violence towards women, bullying of gay or, much more recently, transgender people and disrespect of the infirm or elderly to be any more acceptable than theft, murder, child ***ual abuse, rape or cruelty to animals.